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 Confirming JG BAR 10 upgrades

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PostSubject: Re: Confirming JG BAR 10 upgrades   Tue Jul 08, 2008 2:03 pm

Well, I am embarrassed to say I wrote before thinking.

I have tested the following bbs and gotten the following Chrono readings.

.12 - 430 fps
.20 - 360 fps
.23 - 347 fps
.25 - 337 fps
.28 - 312 fps

I seem to have misplaced my .3s so I was not able to test this weight.


So eric was more or less correct on the reduction by approx. 75 fps.

However, in light of this thread I tested the accuracy at range and am feel the same way about accuracy as I did before. (It seems to top out at 150' accurately and after that I was having to "mortar" the bbs).

BUT!

this whole thread has lit the fire under me to try to do some wider testing on the subject of max range, accuracy etc... I dont want to hijack this thread so here is what I am thinking of doing. http://airsoftreports.editboard.com/misc-f10/real-world-airsoft-specs-test-t1300.htm#19660

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PostSubject: Re: Confirming JG BAR 10 upgrades   Tue Jul 08, 2008 5:17 pm

So, In conclusion with the gun shooting ~515fps with .20g BBs, the gun will shoot in the area of 455fps with .30g BBs and will be able to hit a man sized target at ~200` and anything past that you will need some luck to get a hit.

This is with the JG BAR 10 with a DBC 6.01mm TB, Zero trigger, orange high pressure piston, Metal spring guide, and a SP150 spring.
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PostSubject: Re: Confirming JG BAR 10 upgrades   Tue Jul 08, 2008 8:41 pm

You don't need all that just do the airbrake mod, my friend has done it and he could still get more FPS if he wanted. He's shooting 400 with .28's. Then just spend the rest on a hop up bucking, DBC barrel and sniper gear.

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PostSubject: Re: Confirming JG BAR 10 upgrades   Tue Jul 08, 2008 9:37 pm

This video shows that it does not work; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAeIjju-5MU&hl=en

And even if it did I still would not use it because it would make the gun a lot louder.

And speaking of hop ups what brand and prices are there?
Is the stock one good?
And how do I do the teflon tape mod and if I were to buy one how would I install the hop up?
Will this work? http://www.trinityairsoft.com/p-514-hop-up-bucking-by-laylax.aspx (soft)
Or maybe this? http://www.trinityairsoft.com/p-327-hop-up-bucking-fire-fly.aspx (hard)
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PostSubject: Re: Confirming JG BAR 10 upgrades   Tue Jul 08, 2008 11:29 pm

Also, do I need to cut the trigger guard to fit a zero trigger?
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PostSubject: Re: Confirming JG BAR 10 upgrades   Thu Jul 10, 2008 2:01 pm

So does anybody know what to do with the hop up? And if the zero trigger will fit?
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PostSubject: Re: Confirming JG BAR 10 upgrades   Fri Jul 11, 2008 9:51 pm

Hard bucking, and the zero trigger will fit if its the one for the VSR-10.
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PostSubject: Re: Confirming JG BAR 10 upgrades   Fri Jul 11, 2008 11:51 pm

You just replace the old bucking with the hard bucking and not the whole hop up unit right? Thanks.
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PostSubject: Re: Confirming JG BAR 10 upgrades   Sat Jul 12, 2008 4:12 pm

I only know of the internals of the VSR-10, so I couldn't really tell you if you have to replace the whole unit. If it is a plastic hop up chamber, I would deffinitely change it. I would only replace the bucking.
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PostSubject: Re: Confirming JG BAR 10 upgrades   Sat Jul 12, 2008 9:51 pm

The BAR 10 is an exact clone of the VSR and is compatible with all their parts, so its the same. That being said, with your knowledge of the VSR (VSR has the same hop up as BAR 10) would you need to change the whole unit or just the bucking?
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PostSubject: Re: Confirming JG BAR 10 upgrades   Sun Jul 13, 2008 8:47 pm

emokid wrote:
I only know of the internals of the VSR-10, so I couldn't really tell you if you have to replace the whole unit. If it is a plastic hop up chamber, I would deffinitely change it. I would only replace the bucking.


^ I said it in there. I just asked my friend what he did with his tm vsr-10 gspec. He had one and upgraded it internally with everything. I'll edit my post when I get an answer from him.
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PostSubject: Re: Confirming JG BAR 10 upgrades   Sun Jul 13, 2008 11:16 pm

Just to let you know, the airbrake mod does make your gun louder. (I'm not sure how much, but it does)

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PostSubject: Re: Confirming JG BAR 10 upgrades   Wed Apr 08, 2009 2:01 pm

Not to necro post or anything, but this is an update. I just bought my JG BAR 10 on Monday. I didn't buy it before because I didn't have the money. I bought the Army L85 instead and upgraded it,but now I'm ready for this (b/c I have a job now) so if you are interested I did a thread on Airsoft retreat: http://www.airsoftretreat.com/forums/index.php?topic=80481.0
So, its all working out great so far. Very Happy
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