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 G&G M4 or Army armament L85

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Scott
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PostSubject: G&G M4 or Army armament L85   G&G M4 or Army armament L85 EmptyMon Mar 17, 2008 6:34 pm

Hey guys,
I am now stuck between the L85 and the mighty M4. The G&G is the plastic version but it is still a G&G. Links are posted at the bottom. All of you know that I like having a different gun. That is why the L85 appeases to me and from what I hear is a really good gun, with a metal body. What quality of the plastic is the G&G and are the internals good as well? How would they compare against each other?

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http://www.airsplat.com/Itemdesc.asp?CartId={3FC50EVERESTA8C-6BB2-4CDD-9D39-AC2519231C13}&ic=ERM%2DARMY%2DR85A1&eq=&Tp=
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PostSubject: Re: G&G M4 or Army armament L85   G&G M4 or Army armament L85 EmptyMon Mar 17, 2008 7:05 pm

For some reason airsplat's link to the L85 is messed up, but I finnaly found a working one. http://www.airsplat.com/Items/ERM-ARMY-R85A1.htm.

Now to the guns. I would personally go with the M4. I have this gun and it destroys the Echo 1s I play against. You could then use a 9.6 with more confidence for a higher RoF. And as for mags, the both take Armalite, so there is no advantage there.

The plastic is great(for plastic) and the internals are standard G&G, so they are excellent.
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PostSubject: Re: G&G M4 or Army armament L85   G&G M4 or Army armament L85 EmptyMon Mar 17, 2008 7:31 pm

Go L85. I like the M4, but to many people use that gun. I like the L85, even though it looks fairly wierd lying on the ground, but in someones hands, it looks pretty awsome. The gun itself has a blowback kit, which runs the battery down quickly, so you might as well turn it off. (pulling it back)

The m4 on the other hand, is probably more reliable, and is very good, since it is a G&G. The only thing that flusters me is that it is plastic, and is 100 dollars less than the regular. Maybe there might be something more than a plastic covering different to a regular G&G, maybe not.

Both new guns, I can help you with the L85 once my friends one arrives that he just ordered.

The G&G has higher FPS, the L85 says it is 330, but it is around 320
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PostSubject: Re: G&G M4 or Army armament L85   G&G M4 or Army armament L85 EmptyMon Mar 17, 2008 10:31 pm

Well this gun is going to have to last me a while so I am really un-decided now. I love both guns. Im gonna lay out the pro's and con's of each. L85- Different looking, Metal Body, good internals, blowback. M4- Really Strong PLastic, All American, More reliable, better internals, higher FPS. Right now, the G&G seems to be winning. Is there anything I am missing?
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PostSubject: Re: G&G M4 or Army armament L85   G&G M4 or Army armament L85 EmptyTue Mar 18, 2008 8:18 am

G&G is not all american its made in taiwan
but seriously go with ur feelings about which look u like the most
imho i think the l85 is the gun i would get cuz of the looks and the gears are not that bad also
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PostSubject: Re: G&G M4 or Army armament L85   G&G M4 or Army armament L85 EmptyTue Mar 18, 2008 4:50 pm

I meant all american by design not company.
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PostSubject: Re: G&G M4 or Army armament L85   G&G M4 or Army armament L85 EmptyWed Mar 19, 2008 11:23 pm

How would the internals compare to each other. Which would be the easiest to upgrade and which would last me longer. I hear, i forget from where, that the L85 has a two part gearbox s wouldn't that make upgrading and replacing harder?
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the G&G gearbox is better than the L85 so u dont even need to upgrade it
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PostSubject: Re: G&G M4 or Army armament L85   G&G M4 or Army armament L85 EmptyFri Mar 21, 2008 12:27 pm

I think the L85, since it is different, and it looks much cooler once you get it in your hands.


Isnt the M4/M16 designed in by a Canadian?
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PostSubject: Re: G&G M4 or Army armament L85   G&G M4 or Army armament L85 EmptyFri Mar 21, 2008 1:44 pm

fdsakiller wrote:

Isnt the M4/M16 designed in by a Canadian?
Nope. It was designed by Eugene Stoner, who was born in Indiana.
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PostSubject: Re: G&G M4 or Army armament L85   G&G M4 or Army armament L85 EmptyFri Mar 21, 2008 7:05 pm

I definitely think im going to get the M4 because it is G&G and the internals are a lot better.
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PostSubject: Re: G&G M4 or Army armament L85   G&G M4 or Army armament L85 EmptySat Mar 22, 2008 1:44 am

I would get the M4 also. I've never heard of the brand Army before and I don't see any other guns that they make. (is this there first AEG?)

You are for sure getting a great gun if you buy the M4. The army could be risky for many reasons. (for one it's an off brand)
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PostSubject: Re: G&G M4 or Army armament L85   G&G M4 or Army armament L85 EmptySat Mar 22, 2008 1:55 am

^Army also makes arguably the best low priced MPEG AK47. It's not as good as the higher priced MPEGs, such as the latest Cyma offerings, but it is better than the CM028 in basically all regards.

Honestly, both should serve you well, so just pic the one that you feel you will be happiest with.
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PostSubject: Re: G&G M4 or Army armament L85   G&G M4 or Army armament L85 EmptyWed Apr 02, 2008 6:13 pm

I would go G & G, their internals are better, Airsoft international magazine gave the L85 a 3/5 for its internals, so onll OK internals.
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PostSubject: Re: G&G M4 or Army armament L85   G&G M4 or Army armament L85 EmptySun Apr 06, 2008 1:28 am

The only difference between the plastic G&G's and the metal G&G's is the motor. There is less torque in the plastic versions.
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PostSubject: Re: G&G M4 or Army armament L85   G&G M4 or Army armament L85 EmptySun Apr 06, 2008 2:55 am

Reynolds wrote:
The only difference between the plastic G&G's and the metal G&G's is the motor. There is less torque in the plastic versions.

idk, because with a 9.6 volt, the plastic M4's are shooting at around 1000-1100 rpms at 380 fps.
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PostSubject: Re: G&G M4 or Army armament L85   G&G M4 or Army armament L85 EmptySun Apr 06, 2008 1:31 pm

This is an e-mail I got from Airsoft GI.

Dear Customer
Hi,. thank you for your inquiry. The metal one comes with better motor(more torque). We will suggest you to recommend him the metal version.
Thank you

Airsoft GI

If you have any further questions, suggestions or comments please feel free to email us right back. Please include original message in your replies. Thank you and have a nice day.
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PostSubject: Re: G&G M4 or Army armament L85   G&G M4 or Army armament L85 EmptySun Apr 06, 2008 2:52 pm

I see

I'm not trying to argue with you, I just want the correct information.

I don't think you need a better motor, unless you want to upgrade the spring.


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http://www.kapowwe.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=jg-l85a1&Category_Code=Latest-Airsoft-Guns&Store_Code=R
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