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PostSubject: KWA and KSC   Fri Apr 04, 2008 4:17 pm

I know KWA makes some really nice GBB's, but a lot of times on on-line retailers (such as asgi), they are under the same brand. So are they different or the same thing? And if they are different, which is better?
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PostSubject: Re: KWA and KSC   Fri Apr 04, 2008 5:39 pm

Simple answer from Allizard:
"KWA and KSC are NOT the same company. KWA is the OEM of KSC. Meaning KWA produce the guns for KSC and its the same factory in Taiwan. Hence a lot of confusion about these two companies. There also no concrete edvidence that's KSC is better quality then KWA. Those so call KSC Japan version have better QC than KSC Taiwan version are pretty much a myth cooked up by HK retailers and jacked up the prices for another $30-40. All it's just a pretty ASGK logo and a serial number added on the gun. No edvidence they are actually better quality. There is also KWA USA which is also a seperate owner of KWA in Taiwan. However, I'm not going into details about that. It's just going to confuse you guys even more.
The only possiblity is when KWA revise their design. Since KWA don't issue announcement of updated version, consumer could be compariing the latest version of KSC vs. a KWA that's produce 2 years ago. You'll definately see a difference between the two. In any case, KWA and KSC are basically the same base gun with minor differences marketed for different region of the world market. As you already know KWA in USA have no markings and usually with metal slide (not all of them) and tune to use with green gas. "

It's similar to the whole Echo 1 thing.
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PostSubject: Re: KWA and KSC   Fri Apr 04, 2008 11:18 pm

Where would the KWA aegs fall, KWA USA or Taiwan?
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PostSubject: Re: KWA and KSC   Fri Apr 04, 2008 11:24 pm

KWA USA I believe, but I'm not 100% on that one.
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PostSubject: Re: KWA and KSC   Fri Apr 04, 2008 11:25 pm

Thanks Booligan, you know waaay too much about airsoft.
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PostSubject: Re: KWA and KSC   Fri Apr 04, 2008 11:32 pm

tommyboy wrote:
Thanks Booligan, you know waaay too much about airsoft.
lol
You're telling me...
I need a new hobby Razz
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PostSubject: Re: KWA and KSC   Fri Apr 04, 2008 11:34 pm

What else would you do, paintball?
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PostSubject: Re: KWA and KSC   Fri Apr 04, 2008 11:52 pm

tommyboy wrote:
What else would you do, paintball?
lol
Nope. I used to paintball the better part of a decade ago, but when the sport became about how much paint you could afford to toss around, I quit. Now my primary time consumers are my wife and daughter, but I still make time for airsoft, SCUBA diving, motorcycle racing, etc...
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PostSubject: Re: KWA and KSC   Fri Apr 04, 2008 11:56 pm

You do a lot of stuff, i am still in high school so i got a lot of time, but do not think that i could do all that with a family!
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PostSubject: Re: KWA and KSC   Fri Apr 04, 2008 11:58 pm

All KWA aeg's that I know of are KWA USA. To the OP, I agree with Booligan that its pretty much a case of ECHO1-izing. However, E1 does often add things to the gun like minor metal internals that might make it more durable, etc. In this case though, the only real difference is the markings on the gun and other external differences (as far as I've seen/heard) making the actual gun itself synonymos with either company depending on aesthetics. Just go KWA because the full blown KSC models with exact replica trades are hard to come by at an affordable price since they usually have to be shipped overseas from Hong Kong, etc. I'm picky and spent an extra 60 odd bucks for a "KSC" slide, and I love it, but at the end of the day its the same gun, just a little bit more pretty.
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PostSubject: Re: KWA and KSC   Sat Apr 05, 2008 12:03 am

So you pretty much save $60, but don't get tradmarks, are there any specific differences other that the trades, and do KSC guns have metal slide like KWA?
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PostSubject: Re: KWA and KSC   Sat Apr 05, 2008 5:17 am

I believe that KSC will soon be releasing guns with metal slides, and trades? (not so sure about the trades, there had been a post in arnies news forum). Anyway, if you wait im sure you could get a KSC with a metal slide. Though i couldnt tell you if there are any differences between the new(new being the ones with metal slides) KSC, and KWA

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PostSubject: Re: KWA and KSC   Sat Apr 05, 2008 12:49 pm

I agree that they are the same guns, different makers, there is not much of a difference between KWA USA and KWA Taiwan. They are both KWA and they both make very high quality guns, so If I was buying one, I would look under which KWA factory its made from.
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PostSubject: Re: KWA and KSC   Sat Apr 05, 2008 9:44 pm

Can you choose which factory it came from, and how would you find out which factory it came from?
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PostSubject: Re: KWA and KSC   Sun Apr 06, 2008 12:15 am

I dont think you would choose which factory to come from, and I dont think that there will be a difference, I dont want to insult you or anything, but If I got one, I would be to excited getting the gun, then wondering which factory it came from. If this did insult you though I am sorry, I am just saying that some people might just do.
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PostSubject: Re: KWA and KSC   Sun Apr 06, 2008 12:29 am

what?
I didnt understand a word of what you were saying. KSC and KWA come from the same factories in Taiwan. I believe ( Booligan can clarify) that the factories distribute the guns to the companies KSC, KWA, and KWA USA. Where they do the QC checks i dunno, perhaps they have an individual factory for each company, and they do the qc at the factory. Or when they recieve there guns, they check them at their warehouses. I dont have a clue, only person who might know is booligan. Also, i believe Kwa USA, is just a US branch of KWA (no duh right?) so there guns are without a doubt the same.


Anyway, fdsakiller, i still have no clue what you meant. I think it would be a great help if you read through your posts, before actually posting them, that way there is no confusion and so you sound more literate. Thanks

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PostSubject: Re: KWA and KSC   Sun Apr 06, 2008 12:36 am

Yeah, as far as I know, there is only one factory, the KWA factory. They make the guns for KWA, KWA USA, as well as KSC. They just make them to different specs and materials for the different companies.
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PostSubject: Re: KWA and KSC   Sun Apr 06, 2008 12:44 am

I am sorry, i was trying to say that you cant choose where its from, KWA Taiwan or KWA US, and that once someone gets it, they probably be really excited by having the gun, and wouldnt pay attention which branch its from. Sorry again!
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PostSubject: Re: KWA and KSC   Sat Aug 02, 2008 1:36 am

Hey guys just FYI, the glock line from KWA is being discontinued due to the fact that Glock GmbH has filed a lawsuit against copyright infringement on KWA. So buy their Glock line ASAP if you can. If you ask me, I would rather spend less on a KWA gun and buy a hurricane body kit for it rather than spend $60 to get the KSC version receiver.
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