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theprodigy
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PostSubject: Haha wow...   Haha wow... EmptyTue May 27, 2008 7:09 pm

Looky at what I found

http://www.hitguns.com/JG-AK-47-AEG-Metal-Body-Wood-AK47-Airsoft-Gun-p/jg_0506w_metal_ak_wood.htm

Sweet a JG AK47 FULL METAL AND REAL WOOD GUN FOR $60.

Ok well thats not the only problem. It also says 280 FPS which to me sounds like a CYMA.

CYMA's don't have metal bodies though... So I am wondering what this gun is?

Also it comes with a 70 round CLIP!!!!

Clip is the wrong term it comes with a 70 round magazine.
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fdsakiller
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PostSubject: Re: Haha wow...   Haha wow... EmptyTue May 27, 2008 7:20 pm

One of the reviews says that the handgaurd is plastic, and Booligan said in another topic, that CYMA makes a Full metal AK47U
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theprodigy
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PostSubject: Re: Haha wow...   Haha wow... EmptyTue May 27, 2008 7:50 pm

That's the new AK and its a 74U that is metal. Als the new ones shoot 400FPS not 280.
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PostSubject: Re: Haha wow...   Haha wow... EmptyTue May 27, 2008 7:55 pm

Yeah, it said in one of the reviews it plastic though. I think they are just trying to make it sound like a good deal. I wouldnt buy it. And wow the other option is that they no nada about airsoft
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PostSubject: Re: Haha wow...   Haha wow... EmptyTue May 27, 2008 8:40 pm

Silly false advertising...

Anywho, CYMA DOES maks several full metal and wood AK models, the 035, 036, and the 042/042s are all wood and metal.
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theprodigy
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PostSubject: Re: Haha wow...   Haha wow... EmptyTue May 27, 2008 9:08 pm

Yea but don't they all shoot 400? And does anyone else find it wrong that they said clip?
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AirsoftMan
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PostSubject: Re: Haha wow...   Haha wow... EmptyTue May 27, 2008 9:35 pm

Yes....

I also found it wrong that you felt the need to EXPLAIN why clip was the wrong terminology.....
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theprodigy
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PostSubject: Re: Haha wow...   Haha wow... EmptyTue May 27, 2008 10:20 pm

Yes to what? I asked two questions you can't just say yes.
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fdsakiller
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PostSubject: Re: Haha wow...   Haha wow... EmptyTue May 27, 2008 11:05 pm

I think he meant that "yes" stands for that they should say magazine not clip.

But he disagrees of you saying the wrong termanoligy
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PostSubject: Re: Haha wow...   Haha wow... EmptyWed May 28, 2008 12:08 am

Ok well in that case where exactly did I EXPLAIN its the wrong termanolgy?
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sgt. Hartwig
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PostSubject: Re: Haha wow...   Haha wow... EmptyWed May 28, 2008 12:50 am

....Could you at least stick to your own topic? JG has just recently released their own full metal/ wood AK47s. You can find them on Gunners, and i think RSOV.

The whole Clip or Magazine terminology does not matter. I mean if it did matter so much, i wouldnt be surprised if you through a spasm over a manual written in good old "engrish". So if you all could, please stop talking about the clip, or magazine. Thanks
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PostSubject: Re: Haha wow...   Haha wow... EmptyWed May 28, 2008 1:38 am

Lol. But there is no way a full metal gun is 60 bucks. A frame isnt even 60 bucks!
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PostSubject: Re: Haha wow...   Haha wow... EmptyWed May 28, 2008 3:32 am

Honestly, the price difference between cheap metal and good plastic isn't that much.

Forget the fact that these entire guns cost about $40 to make, whether they are plastic, metal, etc... The shipping is what drives up the total cost of metal bodied guns.

An extra 2-3 lbs of metal can add a lot to the total shipping cost, especially considering they get transported like this:
Factory->Dock->HK wholesaler->Dock->US Wholesaler->US Retailer->You, the cost adds up, especially on a heavier, metal bodied gun. Everyone bumps up the price, and that's how a gun that costs $40 to make ends up being over $100.
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PostSubject: Re: Haha wow...   Haha wow... EmptyWed May 28, 2008 4:06 am

Then what about TMS G&Gs and G&Ps. Wouldnt they cost more to make. Right. but it cant be that $300 difference
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AirsoftMan
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PostSubject: Re: Haha wow...   Haha wow... EmptyWed May 28, 2008 7:32 am

TMs are plastic.....

And Booligan is right(surprise!), these guns arent very expensive to make at all.
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PostSubject: Re: Haha wow...   Haha wow... EmptyWed May 28, 2008 12:06 pm

fdsakiller wrote:
Then what about TMS G&Gs and G&Ps. Wouldnt they cost more to make. Right. but it cant be that $300 difference
Not much more than $40-$75. The only thing extra you're paying for is a brand name, and a few extra or better paid people building the thing.

TM's prices are so high because they don't sell directly to US stores. THey want no part in the US market, so someone in HK has to buy TM's in bulk, and then sell them to US stores, but at a much higher price than if TM was selling it to US stores themselves. And since the TM fanboys will pay pretty much any price asked for a gun, even if it sucks, they make money. Airsofters are suckers, lol...

G&P's are on the slightly more expensive end of manufacturing, because of their manufacturing processes. G&G is like any other manufacturer, you're paying for the brand name and higher paid people to put it together.

Long story short, and to prevent further OT posting, airsoft guns are dirt cheap to make, but the companies charge alot because of these reasons:
1. Shipping adds up
2. Brand queens will pay the high price
3. Skilled labor costs more than typical ACM sweatshop labor
4. R&D costs money, and they want to recoup their loss
5. Most importantly, the gun will trade hands about 4-7 times before it gets to you, and everyone has their hand in the cookie jar. Everyone is making money at every step, and that raises the price.
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