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PostSubject: Higest ROF on a stock gun   Mon Jun 23, 2008 9:51 pm

There is a CQB place being built near my house so I wanted to get a good cqb gun. I was wondering what guns have a really high ROF. I don't really want to buy a high end gun because I will just trick out this gun and it will be a back up. So the ROF would be with a 9.6 since those aren't hard to find. If anybody knows a good CQB gun with a good ROF please reccomend it here thank you.
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PostSubject: Re: Higest ROF on a stock gun   Mon Jun 23, 2008 9:59 pm

Stock? TM Famas is a great option. With an 8.4v battery, low 20's are normal.

Modified, anything can be made to have a high ROF, it just depends on your budget.
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PostSubject: Re: Higest ROF on a stock gun   Mon Jun 23, 2008 10:04 pm

Once you replace the crapola stock battery on the Galaxy MP5K/PDW, I've heard it has a pretty good rof. TMs are out because they aren't supposed to use a 9.6, but they have a good rof with an 8.4.

There are new CA sportline MP5s that have a full metal receiver. You could upgrade those........

just throwing out suggestions.
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PostSubject: Re: Higest ROF on a stock gun   Mon Jun 23, 2008 10:07 pm

I specefied stock and I don't like the famas it's a bit big not much but just a tad for CQB and mags can be a pain.
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PostSubject: Re: Higest ROF on a stock gun   Mon Jun 23, 2008 10:10 pm

Yeah, my friend has a spring famas and it felt a little bulky. (I know the spring famas isn't the same as the TM, but they are both the same length)
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PostSubject: Re: Higest ROF on a stock gun   Mon Jun 23, 2008 10:34 pm

theprodigy wrote:
I specefied stock and I don't like the famas it's a bit big not much but just a tad for CQB and mags can be a pain.

It's really not that bad. For CQB, I honestly wouldn't use anything else personally. The bullpup layout makes it very comfy to use, and mags are easy to change once you practice.
Mag availability is a pain BUT you can change it up to use M4 mags, and then you're good to go.

Honestly, if you want a gun that will pretty much last forever, and be absolutely decimating in CQB, I would seriously look at a FAMAS.
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PostSubject: Re: Higest ROF on a stock gun   Mon Jun 23, 2008 10:38 pm

If you want to downgrade the spring on the VA MP5, those have a fast ROF. (even with an M120 they still have a rof as good as my G36C)

booligan knows what he is talking about. Tm's pretty much last forever.
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PostSubject: Re: Higest ROF on a stock gun   Mon Jun 23, 2008 10:39 pm

I don't need it to last forever though and I personally don't like the famas so any other reccomendations and this is in the mid end category for a reason Wink.
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PostSubject: Re: Higest ROF on a stock gun   Mon Jun 23, 2008 11:00 pm

Well, the next highest ROF I've tested on a stock gun, MPEG or not was the JG Ika Zuchi (Thunder Maul) but the style certainly isn't for everyone. I was getting almost 17 RPS on an 8.4v stock battery.

The rest of the '08 JG M4's shoot slower because they have a hotter spring, lowering the ROF.

One last FAMAS pitch, I promise: They can be found used for about $100 usually. I paid that much for mine. Ok, I'm done suggesting the TM FAMAS, lol Laughing

Basically, it will be a difference of 3-4 RPS between the slowest and the fastest stock ROF, so just pick a small gun that you're comfortable with.
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PostSubject: Re: Higest ROF on a stock gun   Mon Jun 23, 2008 11:12 pm

Where can you get the FAMAS for that much and how about the Galaxy MP5k?
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PostSubject: Re: Higest ROF on a stock gun   Tue Jun 24, 2008 12:00 am

Check classifieds. I found my choice of 3 on ASRetreat under $120 and 1 locally for $100, so I took the local deal. $100 for the gun, battery, 3 mags and a scope mount. Can't beat that deal!

Galaxy MP5's need a rewire, new motor, reshim and relube, and a good battery to get a high ROF.
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PostSubject: Re: Higest ROF on a stock gun   Tue Jun 24, 2008 12:07 am

What about the TM MP5k? Also any other reccomendations Booligan?
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PostSubject: Re: Higest ROF on a stock gun   Tue Jun 24, 2008 12:33 am

Overpriced junk. Underperforming and overpriced.
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PostSubject: Re: Higest ROF on a stock gun   Tue Jun 24, 2008 12:53 am

Well if I was gonna get the Galaxy MP5k I would get it from wholesale central for $56 which leaves 44 to spend on mags or other nonsense from that place. I would probably have an extra $125 so what upgrades should I buy sight claw, mount, EG 1000?
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PostSubject: Re: Higest ROF on a stock gun   Tue Jun 24, 2008 1:13 am

I would get a G&P high speed motor personally, better battery, some mags, and a soldering iron/wire/deans plugs to rewire
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PostSubject: Re: Higest ROF on a stock gun   Tue Jun 24, 2008 1:20 am

I don't know how to solder but I think I can do the other stuff and I can get the gun and 5 mags for $99 at the wholesale place.
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PostSubject: Re: Higest ROF on a stock gun   Tue Jun 24, 2008 10:55 pm

I know rewiring the galaxy mp5k (stock wiring is crap) would help the ROF substantially but look at this vid:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkU6N3GSFHA

Just a new battery and new motor and already the gun has a great rof.

Booligan, do you know of any rewiring guides for the mp5k or that type of gearbox (i.e. what kind of wires to use, placement of wires etc.)
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PostSubject: Re: Higest ROF on a stock gun   Tue Jun 24, 2008 11:15 pm

Just take the stock wiring out and solder in new stuff. Use 16g for easiest fit and less resistance.

No guides necessary, just take out the stock set, note where it goes, and redo it.
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PostSubject: Re: Higest ROF on a stock gun   Wed Jun 25, 2008 4:10 pm

Stock Gun ROF, Maybe Either the systema running off the 12v, a TM (versing other more regular guns) the STAR SCAR.

Screw that, a stock minigun!
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PostSubject: Re: Higest ROF on a stock gun   Wed Jun 25, 2008 4:28 pm

Good job buddy do you think Star, Systema or TM is mid end?
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PostSubject: Re: Higest ROF on a stock gun   Wed Jun 25, 2008 5:09 pm

and do you think he has 1200 lying around?
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PostSubject: Re: Higest ROF on a stock gun   Wed Jun 25, 2008 7:34 pm

Sorry I didnt catch mid end. AEX Sells Maruzen MP5K GBBS for 195 dollars. For a mid end AEG though......

JG G36c
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PostSubject: Re: Higest ROF on a stock gun   Wed Jun 25, 2008 8:00 pm

^This is also in the AEG discussion.
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PostSubject: Re: Higest ROF on a stock gun   Wed Jun 25, 2008 10:06 pm

I said JG G36c, why do you hate me?? Sad

Just kidding, it was pretty much in a rush, the VA MP5s have a pretty good stock ROF, maybe and a G&G Plastica, but you already have a m4.....
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PostSubject: Re: Higest ROF on a stock gun   Wed Jun 25, 2008 10:34 pm

Well the VA has to pull a bigg spring and G&G makes a plastica MP5. Does anyone know about the ROF on the G&G UMP or TM MP5k?
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