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PostSubject: Upgrades   Upgrades EmptyFri Jul 11, 2008 12:58 pm

Me and one of my friends have decided its time to get better accuracy and range out of our guns. My friend has an Echo 1 MP5A4 (V1 I think) and I have a TM P90. We know we want to get a precision barrel. My friend is also thinking of upgrading the hop up. If he does decide to upgrade the hop up, would he need to replace the whole hop up, or just the bucking?

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PostSubject: Re: Upgrades   Upgrades EmptyFri Jul 11, 2008 1:15 pm

I doubt the V1s are compatible with TM parts. (or all of them atleast) If his E1 is the same as the new ones (other than gearbox parts), you should only need to buy a bucking.

You might need to buy a whole hop up unit, I'm not sure though.

I recommend you get a Prometheus or DBC barrel and a systema bucking. (madbulls perform great, but have durability issues and I wouldn't trust JBU)
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PostSubject: Re: Upgrades   Upgrades EmptyFri Jul 11, 2008 3:08 pm

ALL Echo1s are TM clones, therefore they are compatible with TM parts if I am not mistaken. Thanks for the advice! My friend had been considering a Systema hop up bucking.

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PostSubject: Re: Upgrades   Upgrades EmptyFri Jul 11, 2008 8:57 pm

I was thinking you meant JGs.......lol

get a prometheus/dbc and systema
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PostSubject: Re: Upgrades   Upgrades EmptyFri Jul 11, 2008 9:03 pm

He should be able to replace only the bucking, i have a madbull hop up bucking in my gun and i think it works great, you can get two of them with fishbone spacers for $11. i also like the fishbone type spacer a lot more than the regular ones, i have tried them both and in my experience the fishbone type gave me more consistancy for each shot. but again, that is just in my experience and it could just be a fluke.

http://www.airsoftpost.com/product_info.php?cPath=24_71_368&products_id=28917

I also have a madbull 6.03 tightbore in my gun and it works great and it only cost me $30, if they have the length you are looking for i would highly recommend them:

http://www.airsoftpost.com/index.php?cPath=24_72_375
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PostSubject: Re: Upgrades   Upgrades EmptyFri Jul 11, 2008 10:37 pm

Thanks! I Have heard a lot about what I think in afish bone spacer, but they were not called that, and I have been looking for them!

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PostSubject: Re: Upgrades   Upgrades EmptyFri Jul 11, 2008 11:00 pm

^An H-hop nub? That's pretty much the same concept as the fish bone. Element makes one now, it's dirt cheap. Check ehobbyasia.com
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PostSubject: Re: Upgrades   Upgrades EmptySat Jul 12, 2008 12:53 am

from what I've read, madbull hop ups aren't so hot........

I have them, but I need to put my G36 back together before I can try them for myself. (i've heard the buckings wear out really fast)

I would go for the systema bucking

Also, I think it's worth spending the extra cash for a Prometheus or a DBC because they will last longer. Wouldn't you rather spend the money on a better quality barrel rather than save some money and later on have to buy a new barrel? (it's cheaper in the long run)
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PostSubject: Re: Upgrades   Upgrades EmptySat Jul 12, 2008 1:19 am

^The old ones were iffy, the newer ones are actually really good.
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PostSubject: Re: Upgrades   Upgrades EmptySat Jul 12, 2008 1:21 am

are you referring to the barrels or hop ups?
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PostSubject: Re: Upgrades   Upgrades EmptySat Jul 12, 2008 1:39 am

Hop-ups, but incidentally, the barrels have also improved over time.
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PostSubject: Re: Upgrades   Upgrades EmptySat Jul 12, 2008 1:49 am

Booligan wrote:
^An H-hop nub? That's pretty much the same concept as the fish bone. Element makes one now, it's dirt cheap. Check ehobbyasia.com

Which is better?

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PostSubject: Re: Upgrades   Upgrades EmptySat Jul 12, 2008 1:59 am

Depends on the bucking. The shark works well with the madbull bucking (as they were designed to work together) and the true H-hop works better with bucking like Promy's.

Either one will be a good choice, provided you're not going for absolute sniper rifle-like accuracy.
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