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 M4 IPSC/USPSA style Racegun - WIP - 56K no bueno...

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PostSubject: M4 IPSC/USPSA style Racegun - WIP - 56K no bueno...   Fri Aug 22, 2008 1:21 am

Well, I have project ADHD right now, so I decided to start on my M4 Racegun project.

So, what makes a gun a good racegun? Wild colors, untactical general look, but flawless functionality.

My plan is this:
Gearbox, inner barrel, outer barrel, motor, stock buffer tube and crane stock from TSD/SRC M4 Sportline.
Metal body, handguard, pistol grip from DBoys SPR Mod0

The finish is what the really fun part will be, so I'll only do the partial reveal of it now.

This project started by stripping all the paint off of the SPR handguard and receiver. The first owner of this gun thought it would be a good idea to paint this gun bright red, with some kind of magical paint that turns into super glue when dried. Not good. I painted over it in a tan/black finish long ago, to cover the sad state of affairs of the accursed red rifle. This is how it looked after my repaint, but before the stripping:



Not bad, but not a race gun. Too practical, too tactical.

The guts of the gun will be out of this:



Basically, the idea will be an M4 length barrel, short style gas block, hidden by the handguard, SPR handguard coming almost up to the muzzle end, SPR grip, metal body, and crane stock. No iron sights, reflex sight only. I'm ditching the SPR top spine rail, and will only have the M4 flat top rail for optics. Flashhider is up in the air, but I'm thinking one of the sexy Madbull ones would be a good investment.



So the disassembly process began quite violently. This red paint he used seriously hardened into epoxy, and practically welded the rail assembly to the receiver. It took some coaxing with a hammer and chisel to seperate them, leaving me with this:







Yuk. This paint has me seeing red! Zing!

The lower receiver was much easier, and is now entirely disassembled, ready for stripping:



So the stripping begins. I used this:



Word of caution. This stuff WILL seep through the microscopic pores of normal latex gloves. It hurts, burns, and could maim, so get propper stripping gloves. Use it outdoors, with good ventilation, and wear a mask for safety, as well as goggles. You don't want this on your skin, lungs, eyes, etc...

So, basically, you take EVERYTHING that is plastic, rubber, etc off the gun. ONLY SPRAY THIS ON METAL OR IT WILL MELT THE PLASTIC!!!

With that out of the way, I sprayed it on the gun and watched the show!





Watch that paint crinkle! After about 30 seconds it starts seperating the paint layers. I let it sit for 10 minutes, and then used a specially treated plastic brush to remove the loosened paint. The handguard stripped pretty well, only taking two coats of stripper to remove pretty much all the paint.

The lower receiver is another story. The first coating of stripper took off the tan AND the red devil coat, but left 99% of the factory DBoys black receiver paint intact. Odd. People piss and moan about the crappy DBoys paint job, but I'll be damned if this stuff doesn't strip off. It took me 3 coats,with 10 minute wait times to get it to this point:



Hate. This DBoys paint is a tough adversary.

I decided to do it the easy way and sprayed a coating of stripper on the reciever and put it in a ziploc bag, inside of another bag to let it soak overnight. That should teach that damn paint to be so resilliant!

The upper receiver will be next, but I'm having an issue. You see, the front sight attachment screws (it uses dual allen head screws on the gas block, not pins) are stripped, so I cannot remove the gas block and tube, meaning I cannot unscrew the delta ring and the barrel, leaving the receiver attached to the handguard. I'm doing a thorough job, and I won't be reusing the gas tube, so I'm just taking a hacksaw to it tomorrow, which will free the front end to be unscrewed.

The pistol grip, selector switch, mag release and crane stock are receiveing a textured black/grey/white finish, courtesy of Rustoleum textured multicolored paint.

Thusfar, the grip, selector and mag release have been painted, leaving me this:







Very comfy, very nice finish. I love this paint. My race pistol grips will be getting a matching paintjob.


So, what's the mystery finish going to be? Ponder this:





Later...


First few sanding jobs, up to 400 grit so far...










By the way, I never want to do this again. The stripping sucked, the sanding sucked, and I'm not even halfway where I want it to be yet.

Polished metal guns = fun idea on paper, worst idea in execution.

It still needs a few more runs with the sandpaper, as there is still some paint I missed, plus it needs to be shinier. More parts got painted, and the general look of this thing is building.

My hands hurt, my fingers hurt, and my body is sore from the odd positions I was in today, and I only did 3 hours on this thing today. Blah...



Even later...


Big leap forward today. Hit everything with 1000g and 2000g, then two jobbies with Mothers "Mag" polish. This thing is beautiful, there's no other way to describe it. Since the body is pretty much where I want it, I decided to put it together. The outer barrel needed the RIS mounting tabs cut off to fit the new delta ring, and the upper receiver needed a touch of sanding to fit the outer barrel.


Well, on to the pics:
















It's much shinier than the pics suggest. Almost chrome, but still kinda matte. Just how I want it. Everything black has been hit with the multicolored textured paint, including the stock.

I still need to dremel out the back of the lower receiver to allow the wires to go into the buffer tube, and I need to put the motor in, etc...

I still need to order the flashhider, or think of something custom. It also needs its reflex sight, which will get a matching coat of textured paint as soon as I get it.

So far, I haven't had to purchase one single item, except for paint/polish/etc, so I guess tossing $30 on a sick flashhider and sight wouldn't be a bad idea.

Enjoy the progress!
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PostSubject: Re: M4 IPSC/USPSA style Racegun - WIP - 56K no bueno...   Fri Aug 22, 2008 2:03 am

someone has been playing too much COD4. (red tiger lol)

sound sweet booligan

love the paintjob. Perfect for deserty/urban environment.

I think the chrome look is kinda sexy lol. Add madbull quick silver (silver one) silencer and it would be perfect lol
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PostSubject: Re: M4 IPSC/USPSA style Racegun - WIP - 56K no bueno...   Fri Aug 22, 2008 10:37 am

Stealthmasterairsofter14 wrote:
someone has been playing too much COD4. (red tiger lol)

sound sweet booligan

love the paintjob. Perfect for deserty/urban environment.

I think the chrome look is kinda sexy lol. Add madbull quick silver (silver one) silencer and it would be perfect lol

Nah, red tiger stripe is something even race guns don't have, lol...

I'm pretty sure it's getting a Madbull flashhider like this:
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PostSubject: Re: M4 IPSC/USPSA style Racegun - WIP - 56K no bueno...   Fri Aug 22, 2008 12:16 pm

This is the type of thing that makes me feel warm and fuzzy on the inside. Very Happy

Also, when you mentioned getting a flashider that is the one I pictured.
This gun is going to turn out great!
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PostSubject: Re: M4 IPSC/USPSA style Racegun - WIP - 56K no bueno...   Fri Aug 22, 2008 12:55 pm

I have that flash hider and it's a great add on. It really turns heads but coupled with the fantastic job you did with the gun people will stop in their tracks. Until the point you said you never are going to do that again I was willing to ship you a gun and pay you to do that to a gun for me. I've tried polishing slides of gbb's before and I could barely stand the work required to get it perfect so I don't know how you found the gumption to complete that. Honestly the sexiest thing you've turned out yet.
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PostSubject: Re: M4 IPSC/USPSA style Racegun - WIP - 56K no bueno...   Fri Aug 22, 2008 3:19 pm

That will look sick

dumb question, but what is a race gun?
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PostSubject: Re: M4 IPSC/USPSA style Racegun - WIP - 56K no bueno...   Fri Aug 22, 2008 6:25 pm

Second line in his post.

Cool gun, Ive been hearing of more and more of these lately.
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PostSubject: Re: M4 IPSC/USPSA style Racegun - WIP - 56K no bueno...   Fri Aug 22, 2008 7:25 pm

SecretWeapon wrote:
I have that flash hider and it's a great add on. It really turns heads but coupled with the fantastic job you did with the gun people will stop in their tracks. Until the point you said you never are going to do that again I was willing to ship you a gun and pay you to do that to a gun for me. I've tried polishing slides of gbb's before and I could barely stand the work required to get it perfect so I don't know how you found the gumption to complete that. Honestly the sexiest thing you've turned out yet.

Once I get the process down and get my proper tools, I'll be more apt to repeating this. That post was my "after polishing whine session", lol...
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PostSubject: Re: M4 IPSC/USPSA style Racegun - WIP - 56K no bueno...   Sun Aug 31, 2008 5:50 pm

Double post, I know, but the results are worth it:

Decided to make a matching 4 gun set, with a 1911, M3 shotgun, and SD700 sniper rifle:

M4:



Still waiting on the proper optic and flashhider. The EOTech and FirePig aren't doing it for me on this gun.

1911:

TSD/WE 1911 tactical, two tone polished slide, custom made grip/red dot assembly, texture painted grips.







M3:

UTG M3 tri-shot, TSD shell holder, texture painted grip and pump, haxxored heatshield, rail, shorty red dot sight (thanks Deilax!), and custom made compensator:







Matches the least, but only because there's nothing I can polish, except for the heatshield, which would look ridonkulous.

Sniper rifle:

This started as a TSD SD700 (MB03), originally painted like this:



I took the stock and layed down a quick base of matte black, then hit it with the now ubiquitous "aged iron" textured paint from the M4, M3, and 1911. I then polished all of the metal parts using the same process as the M4 and 1911. The bipod is still plain black, as it'll get primarily used on another gun. The scope will be getting low rise rings, as the high risers on there now look wonky.

Anyways, on to the pics:









This barrel did not want to sand properly. The paint would not come off, and there's still some remaining in some areas, but it's well hidden. The paint on the stock is slightly uneven in some areas, but it's only noticable in direct sunlight. It still doesn't have a muzzle device, because a black or orange tip would look heinous, a black silencer wouldn't look good either, and I don't know if I want to build some kind of badass compensator for it. Thoughts?

Overall I'm happy with this one, and the 4 gun set is almost done.
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PostSubject: Re: M4 IPSC/USPSA style Racegun - WIP - 56K no bueno...   Mon Sep 01, 2008 2:25 pm

that's sweet. For the TSD M700, you could maybe put on a madbull quick silver silencer. (the silver one) Or I think it would look cool if you could somehow mount a Barret .50 cal style flash hider.
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PostSubject: Re: M4 IPSC/USPSA style Racegun - WIP - 56K no bueno...   Mon Sep 01, 2008 2:32 pm

I actually modified, painted, and polished an SPR flashhider for it:



Fits the look I think.

Here it is with that and a chopped G3 mag for visual badassness:



Still haven't attached the mag yet, and waiting on new low mount rings for the scope.
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PostSubject: Re: M4 IPSC/USPSA style Racegun - WIP - 56K no bueno...   Mon Sep 01, 2008 2:36 pm

DARN THAT SNIPER IS A BEUT!
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PostSubject: Re: M4 IPSC/USPSA style Racegun - WIP - 56K no bueno...   Mon Sep 01, 2008 2:37 pm

Added the scope with high rise mounts:



I think it still needs low mounts. I have some inbound either way.
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PostSubject: Re: M4 IPSC/USPSA style Racegun - WIP - 56K no bueno...   Thu Sep 04, 2008 1:13 am

Looking real good Booli, keep up the good work. The SD700 looks real nice with the G3 mag.
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PostSubject: Re: M4 IPSC/USPSA style Racegun - WIP - 56K no bueno...   Fri Sep 05, 2008 7:50 am

booligan u can turn that sniper into
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PostSubject: Re: M4 IPSC/USPSA style Racegun - WIP - 56K no bueno...   Sun Sep 07, 2008 9:32 pm

abram wrote:
booligan u can turn that sniper into

Not really because:
That's semi auto
Uses a totally different, well, everything
It's fugly Razz

Made some more progress on the M4:



Evike sent me the Madbull DNTC Compensator I needed, so big thanks to them for that. I also 2-toned a VN mag, and I like the looks of it. I also sprayed a bit of the textured paint on the foregrip to give a high-friction gripping section.

All in all, I'm in love with this M4.
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PostSubject: Re: M4 IPSC/USPSA style Racegun - WIP - 56K no bueno...   Tue Sep 09, 2008 1:56 am

You are an artist Booligan!

You could make some $ off of doing custom work if you don't already!

Keep us posted on any further developments!

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PostSubject: Re: M4 IPSC/USPSA style Racegun - WIP - 56K no bueno...   Wed Sep 10, 2008 11:45 am

Thanks.
Unfortunately, the current market for guns like this is too low for me to even attempt to make money off of them. It's unfortunate, I know.

Once practical shooting in airsoft picks up a bit, there may be potential, but until then, it's kind of a no-go.

Currently, the project status is like this:
M4 - Pending dremel work to body, reflex optic.
M3 - Done, aside from adding another shell holder to the stock for pics
M700 - Dremel work, magwell fabrication, mag attachment
1911 - I'd like to get a compensator for it, but it's most likely done.
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PostSubject: Re: M4 IPSC/USPSA style Racegun - WIP - 56K no bueno...   Wed Sep 10, 2008 3:48 pm

I was thinking of getting a compensator for my 1911 Dragon. Where's the best place to look for them? Do they fit on a regular WE 1911 w/o any real custom work?
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PostSubject: Re: M4 IPSC/USPSA style Racegun - WIP - 56K no bueno...   Wed Sep 10, 2008 4:24 pm

Not sure about the dragon, I think it uses a different barrel bushing assembly.

I'm looking at a few real steel compensators for the 1911 that should fit with some mild mods.
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PostSubject: Re: M4 IPSC/USPSA style Racegun - WIP - 56K no bueno...   Thu Sep 11, 2008 6:16 am

reply to booligans
reply to my post
i ment the
m700 could be turned into that gun i was describing
which has description here http://world.guns.ru/sniper/sn84-e.htm
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PostSubject: Re: M4 IPSC/USPSA style Racegun - WIP - 56K no bueno...   Thu Sep 11, 2008 11:37 am

^I know you were talking about the M700, and my reply is still valid:
1. Won't work because the sniper rifle you showed is semi auto, not bolt action
2. Every single part, layout, and design between the two guns is different. That gun is based on the BAR, which isn't even close to the M700
3. Personally, I think that sniper rifle is fugly Razz
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