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PostSubject: Once again looking for something specific.   Thu Sep 04, 2008 5:52 pm

Alright I am in need of a back up gun. I want it to be an armalite of some sort like an M4 or some version of that. It needs to have RIS/RAS and I would lik it to be as light as possible. Prefeably has a crane stock because I have a battery already. I was considering JG, G&G sportline, A&K and Dboys but am still open to suggestions. Price limit is 200. I just want ya'lls opinion. I don't really have much expeirence with that new JGs, A&Ks and Dboys guns.
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PostSubject: Re: Once again looking for something specific.   Thu Sep 04, 2008 7:03 pm

DBoys M4SD
SRC M4 Sportline
Etc...

Basically, you have 100 options

Look at the available models, find one you like, then ask us about it.
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PostSubject: Re: Once again looking for something specific.   Thu Sep 04, 2008 7:20 pm

The SRC doesn't have rails that I've seen so that won't work and if I had to pick 2 I'd say the A&K M4 CQB http://pointact.com/cat_71-A_K____13_.html and the Dboys M4 CQB http://pointact.com/cat_71-A_K____13_.html. I just know nothing about these guns but they are on the short list of guns I'm considering.
EDIT: The main thing I want out of the gun is a high RoF so which ever M4 CQB gun has the highest RoF is what I want. Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Once again looking for something specific.   Thu Sep 04, 2008 8:06 pm

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The SRC doesn't have rails that I've seen so that won't work and if I had to pick 2 I'd say the A&K M4 CQB http://pointact.com/cat_71-A_K____13_.html and the Dboys M4 CQB http://pointact.com/cat_71-A_K____13_.html. I just know nothing about these guns but they are on the short list of guns I'm considering.
EDIT: The main thing I want out of the gun is a high RoF so which ever M4 CQB gun has the highest RoF is what I want. Smile

Your not going to get a high ROF gun out of a clone, just by choosing one and putting in a 9.6v. You will definitely need some new parts to get it up to the speed you desire, speaking of which, what is your target RPS?
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PostSubject: Re: Once again looking for something specific.   Thu Sep 04, 2008 9:15 pm

No DBoys gun will give you a great ROF. I have 3, and the ROF is always sub-par out of the box.

And yes, you can get JUST the TSD/SRC Sportline that you're looking for. I know, I have one.

Here ya go:
http://www.airsoftpost.com/product_info.php?cPath=21_44_232&products_id=29251

Rails, crane stock, great ROF stock, 9.6v fully capable, and great internals.
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PostSubject: Re: Once again looking for something specific.   Thu Sep 04, 2008 9:45 pm

@OmD I don't really have a target RoF and I was talking relatively. Also is A&K a clone I didn't know not trying to argue.

@Booligan, thanks I hadn't seen that now only if they made it CQB style Sad. Oh well, I guess I knew I'd have to settle but in the AirsoftReports Firing video the gun sounded really bad to all of them sound like that?
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PostSubject: Re: Once again looking for something specific.   Thu Sep 04, 2008 9:57 pm

^News to me. Mine sounds great. It's currently stuffed inside my M4 racegun buildup Razz
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PostSubject: Re: Once again looking for something specific.   Thu Sep 04, 2008 10:36 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Once again looking for something specific.   Fri Sep 05, 2008 12:27 am

Either one should be fine on a 9.6v

Pick your personal favorite.

Edited for voltage typo :Pd


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PostSubject: Re: Once again looking for something specific.   Fri Sep 05, 2008 6:25 am

OMD,

I don't know what you are defining as "Clones". Your G&G could be considered a "Clone" as could ICS. Yet both of these offer more than adequate ROF.

ROF is about 16 bb/sec on the TSD M4 RIS I have tested. Its perfectly adequate. The E1s I have tested seem to come in around that, though usually a little lower (14 bb/sec).

The CA's that I have tested do seem to have a higher ROF then the E1 or TSD models however. Though the FPS is usually lower.

Your budget and personal preference will really be the deciding factors.

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PostSubject: Re: Once again looking for something specific.   Fri Sep 05, 2008 10:52 am

^Technically, ICS is one of the "other" companies that isn't really a clone, as they use their own gearbox design, very independent parts choice, and unique body attachment methods.

Carry on!
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PostSubject: Re: Once again looking for something specific.   Fri Sep 05, 2008 5:19 pm

Hmm ok I just want your opinion on this one http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?cPath=154_155&products_id=3169. I can get it from pointact for 200 so it's still in the price range. No one really seems to know much about these new A&K guns.

Booligan wrote:
Pick your personal favorite.
But I want to know YOUR personal favorite and then just pick that one. Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Once again looking for something specific.   Fri Sep 05, 2008 5:46 pm

theprodigy wrote:

But I want to know YOUR personal favorite and then just pick that one. Very Happy
I have FAR too many favorites for you to afford them all Wink

The new A&K guns are good, but shoot WAY hot, especially if it's going to be used in any type of CQB.

Here's a review of it on ASRetreat: http://www.airsoftretreat.com/forums/index.php?topic=60554.0
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PostSubject: Re: Once again looking for something specific.   Fri Sep 05, 2008 6:48 pm

^Haha but I just want one and I will not be using it in a CQB environment.

I'm not gonna get the A&K, I think right now it looks like the SRC but I'm not sure. I don't have batteries for either Sad.
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PostSubject: Re: Once again looking for something specific.   Fri Sep 05, 2008 7:53 pm

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OMD,

I don't know what you are defining as "Clones".

ACMs.


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Your G&G could be considered a "Clone" as could ICS. Yet both of these offer more than adequate ROF.

Can some G&Gs be considered clones? Partly, yes. They are internally cloned, yet externally different.

My particular G&G, is not a clone, it is an original design, predating the TM M14.

To avoid anymore of this, I just refer to them as ACMs to make everyone happy.

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ROF is about 16 bb/sec on the TSD M4 RIS I have tested. Its perfectly adequate. The E1s I have tested seem to come in around that, though usually a little lower (14 bb/sec).

What brand battery was used, and what are the specs on this particular battery. Secondly, theprodigy is looking for a high ROF gun which can be used in the case that his KWA is not working. I am trying to give him the best advice here on a weapon that will not cost him an arm and a leg, yet will still give him some adequate firepower. I have not seen this in the ACMs I have used unless they have been upgraded internally. 9.6v batteries can help over the horrid stock batteries, yet some real ROF can be achieved for a decent price.

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The CA's that I have tested do seem to have a higher ROF then the E1 or TSD models however. Though the FPS is usually lower.

Well yes, CA's have better quality motors which can provide a higher ROF than an ACM motor. They do have lower FPS, regardless I don't see that as much of a deciding factor, especially in this case where the gun will be used in CQB. Just to clarify I am not suggesting he get a CA, I would actually advise against it, just giving an example of what a better motor can do. An EG1000 motor is 30$ off of EHA, this could give theprodigy along with a 9.6v battery a large increase in his ROF, providing that he gets an ACM.


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Your budget and personal preference will really be the deciding factors.


Agreed.

Yet he should be exposed to all options and alternatives, to make the best decision for his interests.
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PostSubject: Re: Once again looking for something specific.   Fri Sep 05, 2008 9:04 pm

This doesn't help you, but I was just curious what you will be using this gun for? If it's not for CQB, is it just a back up gun? Or is your KWA broken?
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