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erric288
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PostSubject: A&K M4 RIS (full metal)   A&K M4 RIS (full metal) EmptySun Nov 09, 2008 7:36 pm

I'm looking into this M4 ,but I wanted to know if the internals are good or not and if the metal body is a quality one. Also since the handguard is RIS do you still put the battery in the back or do you put it in the stock? Thanks.

Here's a link: http://www.gunnerairsoft.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=1232
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PostSubject: Re: A&K M4 RIS (full metal)   A&K M4 RIS (full metal) EmptySun Nov 09, 2008 9:29 pm

It's a cranestock, so you put the battery in there. I suggest you post this elsewhere (ASR, ASF etc) because IDK of anyone on here who owns an A&K M4. Booligan might be able to shed some light.
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PostSubject: Re: A&K M4 RIS (full metal)   A&K M4 RIS (full metal) EmptySun Nov 09, 2008 9:38 pm

So does that mean that I can't use a nun-chuck battery.
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PostSubject: Re: A&K M4 RIS (full metal)   A&K M4 RIS (full metal) EmptyMon Nov 10, 2008 3:22 pm

I can give you a bit of insight on the full metal A&K line.

Firstly, as the gunner shows, they shoot very hot, around the FPS of the new CYMAs. So unless you are trying to build a DMR, you should definitely downgrade the spring. Next, the shimming sucks on most of these guns, reshimming is a must. Most of the internals seem pretty solid, however a reshim, regrease, rewire, spring replacement and a new bucking can make this into a formidable AEG, and as always get a good aftermarket battery, that can fit into a crane stock. The A&K metal bodies, from what I have heard are of very nice quality, on par with CA.
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PostSubject: Re: A&K M4 RIS (full metal)   A&K M4 RIS (full metal) EmptyTue Nov 11, 2008 6:04 pm

Ok i was just about to ask the same question, so this would be an all around better choise over DBoys (I want a metal body or JG would be the only way to go)?
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PostSubject: Re: A&K M4 RIS (full metal)   A&K M4 RIS (full metal) EmptyWed Nov 12, 2008 1:03 am

birchenboy wrote:
Ok i was just about to ask the same question, so this would be an all around better choise over DBoys (I want a metal body or JG would be the only way to go)?

I would take the A&K because the metal body quality is better , both are about at the same level internally, neither have any real internal advantages over each other.
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PostSubject: Re: A&K M4 RIS (full metal)   A&K M4 RIS (full metal) EmptyThu Nov 13, 2008 1:47 am

A&K aegs will usually be better than JG aegs unless it is one of the older A&K lines (ex. the A&K M4 S-System), which are problematic, and low quality.
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PostSubject: Re: A&K M4 RIS (full metal)   A&K M4 RIS (full metal) EmptyFri Nov 14, 2008 9:53 am

Is there any way to tell if this: http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?cPath=139_24_164&products_id=2236 is the new or old series?
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PostSubject: Re: A&K M4 RIS (full metal)   A&K M4 RIS (full metal) EmptyFri Nov 14, 2008 8:21 pm

birchenboy wrote:
Is there any way to tell if this: http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?cPath=139_24_164&products_id=2236 is the new or old series?

Its old, you can tell by the price, and the fact that it was added in 2007.
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PostSubject: Re: A&K M4 RIS (full metal)   A&K M4 RIS (full metal) EmptyFri Nov 14, 2008 10:34 pm

So that is really a peice of junk?
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PostSubject: Re: A&K M4 RIS (full metal)   A&K M4 RIS (full metal) EmptyFri Nov 14, 2008 10:51 pm

birchenboy wrote:
So that is really a peice of junk?
Well, I am not completely sure. You may want to look around for reviews, or ask someone who ones one.

Btw, according to the customer reviews on ASGI they say that it doesnt have a metal body...and ASGI never said it did anyways.

I'm pretty sure that the old A&K guns shoot 300 fps or less, and the new ones are the one OmD described as shooting hot, and has metal bodies.
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PostSubject: Re: A&K M4 RIS (full metal)   A&K M4 RIS (full metal) EmptySat Nov 15, 2008 11:07 pm

God all im trying to find is an mepg with a metal body that dosnt need all new internals to function.


Any suggestion? Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: A&K M4 RIS (full metal)   A&K M4 RIS (full metal) EmptySat Nov 15, 2008 11:42 pm

Dboys Kalash series?
CYMA New full metal Mp5s? (G&G clones)
The JG or E1 full metal m4s????


C'mon! There are tons of full metal mpegs. None of them really need to be worked on to skirmish, theyre fine out of the box.

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PostSubject: Re: A&K M4 RIS (full metal)   A&K M4 RIS (full metal) EmptySun Nov 16, 2008 4:15 am

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God all im trying to find is an mpeg with a metal body that dosnt need all new internals to function.


Any suggestion?

All MPEGs can function with their stock internals, what we are talking about is making sure they can run reliably for long periods of time with more than adequate performance. Now performance is relative. If you are playing against other stock MPEGs, or even springers, 15 RPS and average accuracy. Or if you are playing against highly tuned AEGs, you may need 23-25 RPS with high accuracy and range. It all depends on your situation.


My personal suggestions would be:
-The full metal CM.031s
-CM.032s
-CM.035
-Kalash
-A&K SPRs
-G&G Sportlines
-CA Sportlines
-SRC sportlines
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PostSubject: Re: A&K M4 RIS (full metal)   A&K M4 RIS (full metal) EmptySun Nov 16, 2008 4:27 am

OvermedicateD wrote:
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God all im trying to find is an mpeg with a metal body that dosnt need all new internals to function.


Any suggestion?

All MPEGs can function with their stock internals, what we are talking about is making sure they can run reliably for long periods of time with more than adequate performance. Now performance is relative. If you are playing against other stock MPEGs, or even springers, 15 RPS and average accuracy. Or if you are playing against highly tuned AEGs, you may need 23-25 RPS with high accuracy and range. It all depends on your situation.


My personal suggestions would be:
-The full metal CM.031s
-CM.032s
-CM.035
-Kalash
-A&K SPRs
-G&G Sportlines
-CA Sportlines
-SRC sportlines
No JG guns?
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PostSubject: Re: A&K M4 RIS (full metal)   A&K M4 RIS (full metal) EmptySun Nov 16, 2008 3:47 pm

stansalad wrote:

No JG guns?

JG doesn't really have anything too special besides their G36 series which Birchenboy already owns. CYMA, A&K, DBoys all outmatch JG's latest offereings.
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PostSubject: Re: A&K M4 RIS (full metal)   A&K M4 RIS (full metal) EmptySun Nov 16, 2008 10:04 pm

*cough*stalker*cough*

By DBoys latest offerings do you mean there metal body M4 and SCAR? or something ealse?
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PostSubject: Re: A&K M4 RIS (full metal)   A&K M4 RIS (full metal) EmptySun Nov 16, 2008 10:12 pm

As well as their kalash series.

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PostSubject: Re: A&K M4 RIS (full metal)   A&K M4 RIS (full metal) EmptySun Nov 16, 2008 11:26 pm

I can't stand kalash series so ugly.

I might go with the M4 can't decide.
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PostSubject: Re: A&K M4 RIS (full metal)   A&K M4 RIS (full metal) EmptyMon Nov 17, 2008 1:46 am

lol, theyre just Ak variants...

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PostSubject: Re: A&K M4 RIS (full metal)   A&K M4 RIS (full metal) EmptyMon Nov 17, 2008 11:05 pm

Yea I no the...Armalitness is important because of magizines.
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