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PostSubject: Tips for winter airsofting   Tips for winter airsofting EmptyFri Dec 14, 2007 11:05 pm

does anybody have any tips for airsofting in Michigan in the winter? a guy from another forum said V2 gearbox's could crack easily. sooo what is a gun i could use (m4 variant) without a V2 gearbox?
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PostSubject: Re: Tips for winter airsofting   Tips for winter airsofting EmptySat Dec 15, 2007 4:22 am

all M4 variants to my knowledge use a V2 gearbox, except ICS, who has a split gearbox design. Though i cannot confirm it, i have heard that the ICS top proportion of the gearbox is supposedly thicker than a regular V2 gearbox. But buying any ICS m4 will cost you atleast $300. Another option is getting a reinforced V2 gearbox, or buying an AEG with a V3 gearbox.

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PostSubject: Re: Tips for winter airsofting   Tips for winter airsofting EmptySat Dec 15, 2007 12:41 pm

Tip for winter:
I'm here in western NY, where it happens to snow quite a lot in the winter. (We're getting a huge dump this weekend)

1st of all, Like me, you won't want to be using gas guns. I'm planning on buying the KWA G18C, and I don't plan on using it outside until at least the spring.
As for AEG's, I've got some friends that have played in the snow before, with much cheaper guns than ICS, and they didn't have problems.

Just keep your gun out of the snow, and you'll be fine. Water around the battery, motor, magazine, barrel, etc. could make one of those parts not work, which would mean that you wouldn't be able to play.

So my only advice is to play as sparingly as possible in the winter, or pull out the springers. They're cheap enough to get replaced (if you'd really want to) and you then won't have to worry about issues you may have with gas guns or electrics.

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PostSubject: Re: Tips for winter airsofting   Tips for winter airsofting EmptySat Dec 15, 2007 12:44 pm

would an echo 1 g36c be good? according to evike.com, it has a version 3 gearbox. http://store.matrixbb.com/servlet/-strse-27379/New-Version-ECHO-1/Detail

soo what is the difference between V2 and V3 gearboxes?!?
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PostSubject: Re: Tips for winter airsofting   Tips for winter airsofting EmptySat Dec 15, 2007 2:26 pm

sgt. Hartwig wrote:
all M4 variants to my knowledge use a V2 gearbox, except ICS, who has a split gearbox design. Though i cannot confirm it, i have heard that the ICS top proportion of the gearbox is supposedly thicker than a regular V2 gearbox. But buying any ICS m4 will cost you atleast $300. Another option is getting a reinforced V2 gearbox, or buying an AEG with a V3 gearbox.

ICS split gearbox is a V2. Its thicker in some regions, and is sliced in half.

So in essence, you are prone to the same problems that a V2 has, even if you have an ICS. But luckily ICS gearboxes are reinforced like most highends, so don't worry about that.
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PostSubject: Re: Tips for winter airsofting   Tips for winter airsofting EmptySun Dec 16, 2007 1:34 pm

We play all winter and have not had any issues, however I'm not so sure that most of you would call what we have here in VA "winter". We get "cold" temps that do dip down into the upper twenties, but rarely lower. One thing I have found that has helped. I wen to Wal-Mart and bought tons of their hand/feet/body warmers. I found some of the really small hand warmers will fit inside the foregrip and battery bags with my battery's. They are also useful inside those little mesh pockets of my gear for keeping me warm!
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PostSubject: Re: Tips for winter airsofting   Tips for winter airsofting EmptySun Dec 16, 2007 5:55 pm

From what I here it is not smart to put a hand warmer in the foregrip.

http://www.airsoftretreat.com/forums/index.php?topic=49909.0
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PostSubject: Re: Tips for winter airsofting   Tips for winter airsofting EmptySun Dec 16, 2007 7:28 pm

Itsahak wrote:
We play all winter and have not had any issues, however I'm not so sure that most of you would call what we have here in VA "winter". We get "cold" temps that do dip down into the upper twenties, but rarely lower. One thing I have found that has helped. I wen to Wal-Mart and bought tons of their hand/feet/body warmers. I found some of the really small hand warmers will fit inside the foregrip and battery bags with my battery's. They are also useful inside those little mesh pockets of my gear for keeping me warm!

The battery gets warm by itself, so if anything, what you are doing could be bad.

It's mainly the gearbox and stuff you need to worry about.
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PostSubject: Re: Tips for winter airsofting   Tips for winter airsofting EmptyTue Dec 18, 2007 1:39 am

Python wrote:
would an echo 1 g36c be good? according to evike.com, it has a version 3 gearbox. http://store.matrixbb.com/servlet/-strse-27379/New-Version-ECHO-1/Detail

soo what is the difference between V2 and V3 gearboxes?!?

Really the only difference is the motor in enclosed and is attached to the gearbox.

Version 2 Gearbox
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Version 3 Gearbox
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PostSubject: Re: Tips for winter airsofting   Tips for winter airsofting EmptyTue Dec 18, 2007 2:57 am

There are many design differences between the two. Unfortunetley your pics do not allow us to see the thickness of the V2 compared to the V3. Basically your pics are useless...

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PostSubject: Re: Tips for winter airsofting   Tips for winter airsofting EmptyTue Dec 18, 2007 3:49 pm

I found this on mechbox.com

This may or may not help you with you decision.

http://www.mechbox.com/site/the-mechbox/mechbox-versions.html

This shows the pros and cons of each version
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PostSubject: Re: Tips for winter airsofting   Tips for winter airsofting EmptyTue Dec 18, 2007 11:51 pm

a9b8 wrote:
From what I here it is not smart to put a hand warmer in the foregrip.

http://www.airsoftretreat.com/forums/index.php?topic=49909.0
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Hmmmmmm.....
Looks like I shall be discontinuing this practice! Thanks for the heads up!
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