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PostSubject: Tokyo Marui AK74MN AEG   Thu Dec 20, 2007 7:37 pm

Here is some info on TM's newest AEG:



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Frontier: Tokyo Marui AK74MN


Japanese stores are already offering latest replica from Tokyo Marui. Suggested retail price of AK74MN is 57,540 Japanese Yen (353.01 EUR). However, due to competition and discount schemes stores offer this replica with hefty rebate. For instance, Frontier's price is 36,800 Yen (225.77 EUR).

They also prepared a short promo clip. Yet again I've taken a liberty and uploaded clip to the AirsoftNews.EU YouTube channel, so we don't hammer Frontier.jp's bandwidth to oblivion. Images and clip propriety of Frontier.jp.


Here is a demo video: (the charging handle actually goes back w/ each shot!!) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTQcK11yg3g
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PostSubject: Re: Tokyo Marui AK74MN AEG   Thu Dec 20, 2007 7:46 pm

Im in love!
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PostSubject: Re: Tokyo Marui AK74MN AEG   Thu Dec 20, 2007 8:31 pm

Please don't tell me you never heard of this before. This AEG has been known to be in production for ages.

Its cool though, but I would wait until it is perfected.
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PostSubject: Re: Tokyo Marui AK74MN AEG   Thu Dec 20, 2007 8:40 pm

Its going to be there most expensive gun. More expensive than the PSG1. Also theyre trying to patent the Real-shock system, so that it does not get cloned, so dont expect any cheap alternatives. Last for those who are extreme;ly nit picky about the realism, the the charging handle doesnt go back all the way back like a RS Ak, though its still a nice feature. Oh and last, last its going to be metal Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Tokyo Marui AK74MN AEG   Thu Dec 20, 2007 8:53 pm

Yeah its a great gun probably going to buy it in the next couple of months
always good for some change
(I havea systema M4 and I think the terrorist AK will be a good change) also it is a TM revolution... well kinda
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PostSubject: Re: Tokyo Marui AK74MN AEG   Thu Dec 20, 2007 9:23 pm

...that isnt a terrorist ak... Thats a Russian model.

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PostSubject: Re: Tokyo Marui AK74MN AEG   Thu Dec 20, 2007 9:58 pm



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PostSubject: Re: Tokyo Marui AK74MN AEG   Thu Dec 20, 2007 10:02 pm

This could definetly pose a problem. Though im sure TM has already addressed these issues...i hope.

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PostSubject: Re: Tokyo Marui AK74MN AEG   Fri Dec 21, 2007 12:16 am

lol same difference, terrorrist get there guns from the russians any way, just that is the current form the russin special forces use
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PostSubject: Re: Tokyo Marui AK74MN AEG   Fri Dec 21, 2007 12:29 am

No Real Steel discussion folks, you guys darn well know the rules.
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PostSubject: Re: Tokyo Marui AK74MN AEG   Sat Dec 29, 2007 9:25 am

hey guys
so i just found out that they sell the AK47MN
in taiwan the same day as japan and the price they have here is about 400 bucks and it says its made out of ABS plasic and metal
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PostSubject: Re: Tokyo Marui AK74MN AEG   Sat Dec 29, 2007 10:22 am

abram wrote:
hey guys
so i just found out that they sell the AK47MN
in taiwan the same day as japan and the price they have here is about 400 bucks and it says its made out of ABS plasic and metal

Sorry to burst your bubble, but all that was stated above. But ur really lucky to have it there before us.

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PostSubject: Re: Tokyo Marui AK74MN AEG   Sat Dec 29, 2007 1:55 pm

LOL...
I will admit this is a VERY "COOL" bit of mechanical trickery...

but sadly, I must question its usefulness.

It is undoubtable that this "Real shock" action will result in increased bat drain, though how much and how bad is yet to be seen.

Although more moving parts = more wear that concerns me less.

What does concern me is the idea of adding a mechanical devise that actually makes the airsoft gun LESS accurate.

BELIEVE ME!!! from a replica stand point this is sweetness...but from a skirmish weapon perspective this would not be weapon of first choice. (WHat happens if the charging handle gets jammed?...does the entire gearbox get frozen, having to carry more batteries, reduced accuracy bc of the "Real shock").

Impressive idea though!

Id like to see how it does actually perform!

Good catch Capt. Crunch!

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PostSubject: Re: Tokyo Marui AK74MN AEG   Sat Dec 29, 2007 6:19 pm

^^ Well, I have to question that statement.

If the EBB action is created the same way the G&G L85's blow back is created, then I would have to say that their is nearly any battery loss whatsoever.

But, if that is true, I would have my doubts about its reliability. The G&G L85's blow back was so unreliable, people just disabled it.

Also, if you watch the videos of the AK74mn, you will see that their is nearly no kick to the weapon, just like any other AEG. so accuracy wise, I don't see that you loose to much.

I do agree on your last large paragraph. I would definitely look into what actually powers the blow back before taking it into a skirmish.

For me, I'll stick with the standard AEG.
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PostSubject: Re: Tokyo Marui AK74MN AEG   Sat Dec 29, 2007 8:28 pm

Well, people ( on arnies) have said that it has the same ammount of kick as the Escort GBB guns. though i dont think anyone here has had experience with those.

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PostSubject: Re: Tokyo Marui AK74MN AEG   Sat Dec 29, 2007 8:32 pm

Oh Rele?

Did you watch his arm? It looked pretty strained, like he was forcing to stay put. anyway heres the Escort Mp5


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PostSubject: Re: Tokyo Marui AK74MN AEG   Sat Dec 29, 2007 8:34 pm

Sorry, I coded it wrong. Anyway, the EBB doesn't have much kick. Not nearly as much as the escort, from face value. Look at the vid.

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PostSubject: Re: Tokyo Marui AK74MN AEG   Sat Dec 29, 2007 11:37 pm

Well OMD,

I suppose my point is that it is nothing more than a dress up.

Though you may be right that any detrimental effects to accuracy may be negligible, the point is...its not helping.

Now as for power loss, again, having relatively little experience with the EBB mechanisms in question, I would use deductive reasoning to infer that that any peripheral mechanical mechanism will draw more energy (From the bat) more quickly than if it was not forced to power a faux charging handle back and forth.

How much of a drain has yet to be determined.

For me the grand picture is one of practicallity,


This mechanism leeches accuracy and battery capability (However little) from the standard performance of a TM AK 47/74. That is...whatever its performance, it will always be less than the non EBB vesion.

The equation would read thus:

TM AK74MN performance = TM 47/74 - X%.

Put another way...

All anyone can do in describing this invention is say, "Well the Real Shock mechanism doesnt hurt the performance that much" as opposed to "The RS assembly improves performance by x%"

So from practical airsoft skirmish standpoint I would have to pass.

In terms of strict replica terms I say...VERY COOL!


BTW...this is a moot point to anyone who has their heart set on this gun...get it if you like it!

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PostSubject: Re: Tokyo Marui AK74MN AEG   Sun Dec 30, 2007 1:35 am

Agreed.

I don't see any practical usage in having an EBB AEG.

The question to be asked is why would I pay 400$+ for a gun that is casted from aluminum and zinc, when I can get an AK74 from G&G or ICS which has a higher build quality for less?
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