Once again looking for something specific.

Alright I am in need of a back up gun. I want it to be an armalite of some sort like an M4 or some version of that. It needs to have RIS/RAS and I would lik it to be as light as possible. Prefeably has a crane stock because I have a battery already. I was considering JG, G&G sportline, A&K and Dboys but am still open to suggestions. Price limit is 200. I just want ya'lls opinion. I don't really have much expeirence with that new JGs, A&Ks and Dboys guns.

DBoys M4SD
SRC M4 Sportline
Etc...

Basically, you have 100 options

Look at the available models, find one you like, then ask us about it.

The SRC doesn't have rails that I've seen so that won't work and if I had to pick 2 I'd say the A&K M4 CQB http://pointact.com/cat_71-A_K____13_.html and the Dboys M4 CQB http://pointact.com/cat_71-A_K____13_.html. I just know nothing about these guns but they are on the short list of guns I'm considering.
EDIT: The main thing I want out of the gun is a high RoF so which ever M4 CQB gun has the highest RoF is what I want.

theprodigy wrote:

The SRC doesn't have rails that I've seen so that won't work and if I had to pick 2 I'd say the A&K M4 CQB http://pointact.com/cat_71-A_K____13_.html and the Dboys M4 CQB http://pointact.com/cat_71-A_K____13_.html. I just know nothing about these guns but they are on the short list of guns I'm considering.
EDIT: The main thing I want out of the gun is a high RoF so which ever M4 CQB gun has the highest RoF is what I want.

Your not going to get a high ROF gun out of a clone, just by choosing one and putting in a 9.6v. You will definitely need some new parts to get it up to the speed you desire, speaking of which, what is your target RPS?

No DBoys gun will give you a great ROF. I have 3, and the ROF is always sub-par out of the box.

And yes, you can get JUST the TSD/SRC Sportline that you're looking for. I know, I have one.

Here ya go:
http://www.airsoftpost.com/product_info.php?cPath=21_44_232&products_id=29251

Rails, crane stock, great ROF stock, 9.6v fully capable, and great internals.

@OmD I don't really have a target RoF and I was talking relatively. Also is A&K a clone I didn't know not trying to argue.

@Booligan, thanks I hadn't seen that now only if they made it CQB style . Oh well, I guess I knew I'd have to settle but in the AirsoftReports Firing video the gun sounded really bad to all of them sound like that?

^News to me. Mine sounds great. It's currently stuffed inside my M4 racegun buildup

Ok so now it's between this http://www.airsoftpost.com/product_info.php?cPath=21_44_232&products_id=29251 and http://www.airsoftpost.com/product_info.php?cPath=21_44_218&products_id=28332. By the way thanks for all your help.

Either one should be fine on a 9.6v

Pick your personal favorite.

Edited for voltage typo :Pd

OMD,

I don't know what you are defining as "Clones". Your G&G could be considered a "Clone" as could ICS. Yet both of these offer more than adequate ROF.

ROF is about 16 bb/sec on the TSD M4 RIS I have tested. Its perfectly adequate. The E1s I have tested seem to come in around that, though usually a little lower (14 bb/sec).

The CA's that I have tested do seem to have a higher ROF then the E1 or TSD models however. Though the FPS is usually lower.

Your budget and personal preference will really be the deciding factors.

^Technically, ICS is one of the "other" companies that isn't really a clone, as they use their own gearbox design, very independent parts choice, and unique body attachment methods.

Carry on!

Hmm ok I just want your opinion on this one http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?cPath=154_155&products_id=3169. I can get it from pointact for 200 so it's still in the price range. No one really seems to know much about these new A&K guns.

Booligan wrote:

Pick your personal favorite.

But I want to know YOUR personal favorite and then just pick that one.

theprodigy wrote:

But I want to know YOUR personal favorite and then just pick that one.

I have FAR too many favorites for you to afford them all

The new A&K guns are good, but shoot WAY hot, especially if it's going to be used in any type of CQB.

Here's a review of it on ASRetreat: http://www.airsoftretreat.com/forums/index.php?topic=60554.0

^Haha but I just want one and I will not be using it in a CQB environment.

I'm not gonna get the A&K, I think right now it looks like the SRC but I'm not sure. I don't have batteries for either .

Admin wrote:

OMD,

I don't know what you are defining as "Clones".

ACMs.

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Your G&G could be considered a "Clone" as could ICS. Yet both of these offer more than adequate ROF.

Can some G&Gs be considered clones? Partly, yes. They are internally cloned, yet externally different.

My particular G&G, is not a clone, it is an original design, predating the TM M14.

To avoid anymore of this, I just refer to them as ACMs to make everyone happy.

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ROF is about 16 bb/sec on the TSD M4 RIS I have tested. Its perfectly adequate. The E1s I have tested seem to come in around that, though usually a little lower (14 bb/sec).

What brand battery was used, and what are the specs on this particular battery. Secondly, theprodigy is looking for a high ROF gun which can be used in the case that his KWA is not working. I am trying to give him the best advice here on a weapon that will not cost him an arm and a leg, yet will still give him some adequate firepower. I have not seen this in the ACMs I have used unless they have been upgraded internally. 9.6v batteries can help over the horrid stock batteries, yet some real ROF can be achieved for a decent price.

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The CA's that I have tested do seem to have a higher ROF then the E1 or TSD models however. Though the FPS is usually lower.

Well yes, CA's have better quality motors which can provide a higher ROF than an ACM motor. They do have lower FPS, regardless I don't see that as much of a deciding factor, especially in this case where the gun will be used in CQB. Just to clarify I am not suggesting he get a CA, I would actually advise against it, just giving an example of what a better motor can do. An EG1000 motor is 30$ off of EHA, this could give theprodigy along with a 9.6v battery a large increase in his ROF, providing that he gets an ACM.

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Your budget and personal preference will really be the deciding factors.

Agreed.

Yet he should be exposed to all options and alternatives, to make the best decision for his interests.

This doesn't help you, but I was just curious what you will be using this gun for? If it's not for CQB, is it just a back up gun? Or is your KWA broken?