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PostSubject: me again....having trouble finding what gun to get   me again....having trouble finding what gun to get EmptyMon Jun 02, 2008 2:29 am

I might be able to get a gun under 270. I was thinking the TM P90. I was looking at the TM MC51 because it looks like a G3, but is more compact. I read that it has some wobble and the accuracy isn't very good. So I knocked that gun out. I like AK-47s, but the TM one is a little too expensive and I don't believe it has any metal on it. (maybe gas tube cover) If I am going to buy an AK, I want it to have metal. I have seemed to hit a wall. I don't want a G&G because they have mixed reviews, CA is out because their QC isn't very good anymore. I would like a KWA M4, but they are too expensive.

Do you guys have any suggestions? I want an M4, AK-47, or G3 style gun. If I can't find any of those that sound good, I want the P90.

Even if the AK-47 is more expensive, I might be able to dig some change out of the couch. Very Happy Does it perform any better than the P90? If the perform the same, I would rather have the P90 because it is cheaper. If the AK is more accurate, then I think it would be worth saving up a little longer.

What should I do?
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PostSubject: Re: me again....having trouble finding what gun to get   me again....having trouble finding what gun to get EmptyMon Jun 02, 2008 2:54 am

if your in the right price range you can snag the VFC aks74u off of evike for $300. Regular its 350+.
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PostSubject: Re: me again....having trouble finding what gun to get   me again....having trouble finding what gun to get EmptyMon Jun 02, 2008 7:36 am

Sgt those went back up in price again. Well I am not so sure I would reccomend Tokyo Mauri because it seems you have no intentions on upgrading and you don't play CQB. If you like the feel of metal you might want to try a gun like this http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?cPath=139_24_150&products_id=2036. It looks like a G3, although it does not shoot that hard you can just put a new spring in it. CA's stock can in my expirence shoot 350fps without upgrading anything but the spring and still be reliable. If you want an AK and can save try this http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?cPath=139_24_83&products_id=2635 or if you are still considering getting an MP5 try this http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?cPath=139_24_83&products_id=1466.

Here is a firing video of the CA M41.
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PostSubject: Re: me again....having trouble finding what gun to get   me again....having trouble finding what gun to get EmptyMon Jun 02, 2008 11:43 am

Evike buddy, check evike... Next time i suggest you read and check, before you go and saying i was wrong. I usually know what im talking about.

http://airsoftpost.com/product_info.php?cPath=21_44_235&products_id=24034
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PostSubject: Re: me again....having trouble finding what gun to get   me again....having trouble finding what gun to get EmptyMon Jun 02, 2008 1:54 pm

I would not order from evike if my life depended on it, and stealth knows that I think. I would go with the P90 (: . I have heard that, basically all TMs preform about the same.
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PostSubject: Re: me again....having trouble finding what gun to get   me again....having trouble finding what gun to get EmptyMon Jun 02, 2008 4:01 pm

theprodigy wrote:
Well I am not so sure I would reccomend Tokyo Mauri because it seems you have no intentions on upgrading and you don't play CQB.

That doesn't really matter. Tokyo Maruis have good accuracy and range stock, and upgrading just improves that.

The TM P90 is a good choice, if you like the look. There are no annoying wobbles or anything like that, its light, compact accurate and has high ROF and good range. I believe all Tokyo MAruies perform about the same, although some guns will be better than others, have stronger or weaker mechboxes etc.
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PostSubject: Re: me again....having trouble finding what gun to get   me again....having trouble finding what gun to get EmptyMon Jun 02, 2008 4:13 pm

so do you think accuracy and range will be the same between a Mauri AK-47 and the P90?

Prodigy, who said I don't want to upgrade my gun? I've been playing around with cheap plastic gearboxes to get the feel of them. IMO those are probably harder to get to work than metal gearboxes because they are made so cheap. (the trigger rubs on the sector gear.......lol)

As soon as I get another gun, I'm going to open up my G36 gearbox and get experience with that. If do something wrong and can't get it working again, I can atleast have another gun.

If I add metal bushings, spring guide, and a stronger tappet plate, do you think the lifespan will be any different with an M110? Also, I will probably get a tightbore when I get money and hide it in the silencer. (If I get a P90, I'm going to get the TR)

also, I'm never going to order from Evike NEVER. Thanks for the suggestion though. I also don't really want an AK-74U. I want an AK-47, not 74, and not a 74U.

Plastic doesn't bother me as long as it's sturdy. I don't want to buy CA because I don't ever hear good things about them anymore. I'm going to go down to my local store sometime and ask them what they think.

Who knows, they might have the P90 and AK, then I can possibly test fire them Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: me again....having trouble finding what gun to get   me again....having trouble finding what gun to get EmptyMon Jun 02, 2008 4:22 pm

The only problem I have upgrading a TM, is that you're taking away two of the best features of a TM: It's durability, and reliability . Then you will be relying on YOUR experience working in gearboxes, and you really never get the same thing that you started with.

My suggestion, is that if you're interested with the AK/P90, go for it, and then think about what kind of upgrades you'd like, if necessary.

Now with AK vs. P90... I'd go with AK. That's because of a few reasons:
1) I like the AK design more.
2) Probably a much higher mag capacity.
3) Probably an even greater battery capacity.

However, it's totally up to you. If it was me making the choice, it'd be the AK, but the choice wouldn't really be an easy one. The P90 has a lot of neat features as well. Just don't rush it, and you'll end up happier, I think.
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PostSubject: Re: me again....having trouble finding what gun to get   me again....having trouble finding what gun to get EmptyMon Jun 02, 2008 4:47 pm

Its true that Aks have a higher mag cap, but not so much about the battery. There are a few after market items that can give you more battery space... For instance

http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?products_id=869

And here is a 9.6v 2000 mah battery that takes no extended but stock to use...

http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?products_id=2783

(I was looking at the battery again and it says on the page and I quote \"P90 may require minor modification\". I thought I should catch that before some one else does.)


I am not saying I would suggest that you put that in a stock P90, but I think I proved my point.

But like bert said, its really up to you. I personally would go with the P90 (:


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PostSubject: Re: me again....having trouble finding what gun to get   me again....having trouble finding what gun to get EmptyMon Jun 02, 2008 4:52 pm

sgt. Hartwig wrote:
Evike buddy, check evike... Next time i suggest you read and check, before you go and saying i was wrong. I usually know what im talking about.

Wow sorry didn't that was careless. I heard it from a friend then went and checked and saw this one and thought it went back up in price. Didn't mean to offend you and Airsoftguy I thought your TM was upgraded and if it was then wouldn't you be talking about upgraded Mauris? Just wondering the Mauri's I have used have only ok range and ok accuracy neither are very good and they don't out perform CA in my opinion.
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PostSubject: Re: me again....having trouble finding what gun to get   me again....having trouble finding what gun to get EmptyMon Jun 02, 2008 4:56 pm

The one thing about TM that is priceless is there rap sheet, it makes me sleep well at night knowing that nothing horrible wrong will happen to it from normal ware and tear. With CA's I cant be as sure.
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PostSubject: Re: me again....having trouble finding what gun to get   me again....having trouble finding what gun to get EmptyMon Jun 02, 2008 4:58 pm

Yes, I don't want to get a CA. So even if I upgrade the P90 with an M110 spring, metal bushings, metal spring guide, and tappet plate, it won't be as reliable as it would stock? How much of a difference will the spring make on the life span?
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PostSubject: Re: me again....having trouble finding what gun to get   me again....having trouble finding what gun to get EmptyMon Jun 02, 2008 4:59 pm

Ok well I would think that since everyone here is in love with airsoftgi so much they would have seen this already but here you go
Product Name:CA G36CKWA G36CSRC G36 E2ECHO1 G36CFPS/0.2GCOUNTRY ORIGININTERNAL RATINGWARRANTYPRICE OVERALL RATING
320 FPS

380 FPS

350 FPS

350 FPS

CHINA

TAIWAN

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CHINA

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Great

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45 Days Factory Defect

30 Days Factory Defect

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$270

$295

$150

$145 with battery/charger

4

10

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The KWA G36c and M4 are both rock solid I play with the M4 and my friend owns the G36c. We get the most kills in the games but then again its not all based on the guns. If you buy the G36c I reccomend a 9.6v battery and my friend fit a 4200mah into his. If you buy it I guarantee you will love it. Just buy a lot of mags an extra battery and a vest along with it.
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PostSubject: Re: me again....having trouble finding what gun to get   me again....having trouble finding what gun to get EmptyMon Jun 02, 2008 5:19 pm

Thats cool, but we are not really talking about G36s right now. Lets stick to what we were working on shall we.
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PostSubject: Re: me again....having trouble finding what gun to get   me again....having trouble finding what gun to get EmptyMon Jun 02, 2008 5:26 pm

Wrong section my internet glitched up on me. Mods can you move this to the topic "first highend aeg" please and thank you.
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PostSubject: Re: me again....having trouble finding what gun to get   me again....having trouble finding what gun to get EmptyMon Jun 02, 2008 5:54 pm

I've finally made a decision. Since upgrading a TM pretty much removes the reason to buy one and since I don't trust classic army. I've decided to go for the KWA M4. Hopefully I will be able to get it.

Since upgrading the P90 would cost me atleast 70 bucks with everything (spring, bushings, ect) I've decided to spend 30 bucks more and buy the KWA M4 and use the rest of the money to buy a battery and such.

Does anyone think this is a good decision?

thanks for all the help guys
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PostSubject: Re: me again....having trouble finding what gun to get   me again....having trouble finding what gun to get EmptyMon Jun 02, 2008 6:14 pm

Eh, I guess it is if you like M4s.
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PostSubject: Re: me again....having trouble finding what gun to get   me again....having trouble finding what gun to get EmptyMon Jun 02, 2008 8:25 pm

RoboFURY wrote:
Eh, I guess it is if you like M4s.

oh what do you know? Very Happy lol jk jk

well I read up on them. KWAs have pretty much best gearbox on the market. They are the same if not better than the systema PTW gearboxes. They are pretty much the perfect gun other than the barrel and hopup. I'd rather spend 30-40 bucks for a barrel and hop up then spend 100 dollars upgrading a gun lol
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PostSubject: Re: me again....having trouble finding what gun to get   me again....having trouble finding what gun to get EmptyMon Jun 02, 2008 8:35 pm

Does anyone here have a KWA M4?
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PostSubject: Re: me again....having trouble finding what gun to get   me again....having trouble finding what gun to get EmptyMon Jun 02, 2008 9:58 pm

Me all you need is a new barrel Stealth hop up is fine.

Stealthmaster14 wrote:
well I read up on them

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PostSubject: Re: me again....having trouble finding what gun to get   me again....having trouble finding what gun to get EmptyTue Jun 03, 2008 12:23 am

RoboFURY wrote:
Does anyone here have a KWA M4?

I recommend it Smile

Buy the KWA M4, or any KWA aeg, you will not be let down.

My advice is replace the barrel with a TB 6.03mm as soon as you can.
Correct me if I am wrong, but I think the stock barrel is a 6.05mm?
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PostSubject: Re: me again....having trouble finding what gun to get   me again....having trouble finding what gun to get EmptyTue Jun 03, 2008 8:15 am

I am pretty sure mine is 6.08mm maybe not though it says 6.05mm +/- .03mm.
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PostSubject: Re: me again....having trouble finding what gun to get   me again....having trouble finding what gun to get EmptyTue Jun 03, 2008 3:35 pm

The hop up is OK then?
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PostSubject: Re: me again....having trouble finding what gun to get   me again....having trouble finding what gun to get EmptyTue Jun 03, 2008 3:57 pm

yeah when I get the money I will replace the hop up and barrel because in Chrimson Falcons review he said the accuracy was average. He also said the barrel deviates from .08-.05 but KWA has pretty much been able to keep it at .05
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