Echo MP5j or echo G36

Hi,
As some of you may know, I have a JG BAR 10. Sometime in the future I will need a new aeg and preferably one that is small and compact so I can use it with me jg bar. My main questions here are: How do both of them compare against each other? I know this website has compared them but do any of you have personal experience with either of them? Also, if you tell me to go G36, is that truly small enough to carry on my back while holding a sniper rifle? Remember as a sniper I wont be moving too much, I just want a good solid gun for when I dont want to snipe; but also a good, somewhat small personal defense gun for when I am. Thanks for all the help!
Scott

Why not go for something much more compact than both? What about the Mp5-pdw? Smaller than the mp5j, and much smaller than the g36c. its also porbably lighter, so weight shouldnt be an issue.

Owning the Galaxy Mp5-pdw, i can assure that it is both small, and light weight. Has a nice Fps of ~330 and accuracy is better than what is needed for CQB playing.

http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?cPath=139_24_134&products_id=2113

sgt. Hartwig wrote:

Why not go for something much more compact than both? What about the Mp5-pdw? Smaller than the mp5j, and much smaller than the g36c. its also porbably lighter, so weight shouldnt be an issue.

Owning the Galaxy Mp5-pdw, i can assure that it is both small, and light weight. Has a nice Fps of ~330 and accuracy is better than what is needed for CQB playing.

http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?cPath=139_24_134&products_id=2113

I was thinking that too. I'd get the PDW over the MP5, because they are pretty much the same.

Keep in mind, the G36C is a rather thick gun. For some reason the MP5 feels a lot more compact even though the full stock mp5 is only an inch or so shorter.

I love mine, it is VERY accurate and powerful. Just make sure you buy .25s because .2s don't work very well. Also, the sights on the G36C suck and do not work at ALL, so a red dot of some sort will be needed. (I use a leapers red/green dot and it works GREAT)

Pros for G36C
mags clamp together
great mag (if you wind it all the way, you can shoot the WHOLE mag)
holds 450
great rof
great battery life
good accuracy
great power
fold able stock
crappy sights


Pros for MP5
sliding stock (depends what model)
same if not better accuracy then G36C
not as powerful
mag cap is low (200)
good sights

I'd go G36C. I have only seen the VA MP5 and it is not really any better than the G36C.

I'd go G36C because it is more powerful, pretty much just as accurate as the MP5, higher mag cap, just an overall solid gun.

I say MP5 PDW also.

I go G36c, I feel more comfortable with the Echo 36, it is also very sturdy, the G36 and the MP5 are both great cqb weapons. I think it depends on the size of the player, since that if you use your sights, you want your eye only a couple inches away from the back sight (maybe around 4 inches) to far can amke aiming a lot harder. I like both sights, but they are both a H&K and have similar sights. if you are tall enough for both of the guns, get the gun you think looks the best

People always talk about how compact the G36 is, but I find it a little bulky. Yes, it folds up and is short, but if you have that on your back its gonna be uncomfortable.

Airsoftguy wrote:

People always talk about how compact the G36 is, but I find it a little bulky. Yes, it folds up and is short, but if you have that on your back its gonna be uncomfortable.

yeah same here

It's compact, but it is a WIDE gun. I shudder to think what it feels like while it's strapped to your back.............

I'd go PDW

OK, but personally I hate the looks of the PDW. What do you think about these two?
http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?cPath=139_24_134&products_id=1999
or
http://www.airsplat.com/Items/GP-YP-M9.htm

From what I can tell, both seem to be good guns. I have an echo 1 AK 47 and it hasn't been used too much so do you think I should just go with the pistol b/c the echo will last me a while. Sorry to kind of flip flop like this.

I use my echo1 pdw (which is the same gun as the galaxy, just under a different brand) as a sidearm sporadically when I snipe with my L96. Its probably your best bet as far as a compact AEG (remember, you can always take off the stock to make it a mp5k) to take into the field with a sniper unless you dip into AEP's, an Mp7, or a P90: all of which will take upgrading to match the performance of the PDW in terms of range and power. My loadout most of the time is my sniper and a gas gun, so the M9 might be something to consider. Read the posts about the Y&P M9 in the NBB section to get a better idea of how it is. Its also way more quiet than any GBB or AEG, a plus for any sniper. I dont know too much about the SD6 but knowing JG you'll get your money's worth in that it wont be as good as the galaxy/echo 1 pdw unless you spend some money upgrading it. If your budget is around 100 then I'd get a KWA G19 and then save up for extended clips and a UTG laser to put on the rail. I swear by it as my sniper sidearm. If its around 60-80 than look into the Y&P Mk23 instead as with the silencer you'll put out near 400 fps and its range might almost equal your rifle's. I used to own this gun and use it as my primary back in the day because its that good accuracy and range wise. Same quality as the M9, just a bit beefier, more powerful, and more scary to be shot at with.

What material is the MK 23 made of?

the PDW may look bad on screen, but it accually looks pretty cool, you will be sniping, and when you pull it out, it is small light weight, and can be carried around like a pistol, a person on my team, Jeff (AKA MP5 man) has a 2 TM MP5a5s as a primary, has 2 MP5K (PDW without stock) for secondary, and a special extended barrel MP5 which he uses as a sniper (custom with all sniper upgrades) and just to tell you, he likes MP5s, the MP5ks look better, I dont like the pdw stock, but besides that the small gun looks a lot better than you think

Scott wrote:

What material is the MK 23 made of?

Heavy duty antishock ABS. The frame feels super solid to hold with no creaks or wobble. Its a heavyweight for a NBB and is definately high grade. The slide is made of ABS as well, but it's definately durable and doesnt bend easy. I've dropped it several times and it didnt chip. You can even rack the slide back to cock the hammer, but this isnt needed as the gun is double action. Metal parts: threaded barrel, take down lever, trigger, magazine release, safety, guide rod, hammer and the magazine itself. Its pretty much like a USP, but bigger and badder. Keep in mind the gun is about the size of a DEagle, and even longer with the huge silencer, but you can find holsters for it easy and design-wise it was made for spec ops so you can use it with gloves and add a LAM unit if you wanted.

neither, go for the MP5A4, great gun. Although its not the smallest gun it is pretty compact. The g36 is way to heavy for me.

do you have a reason for MP5A4 over the MP5J, I have a MP5A5 TM and I like it better than a full stock. First you can adjust it to your size, also it is easier to store by sliding the stock in. It is more as a accesory than nessicary, it doesnt really make the gun better, but neither does the full stock in my opnion, relify, if you have a different opinion supporting a MP5A4 full stock, please post about that, thank you!

Airsoftguy wrote:

People always talk about how compact the G36 is, but I find it a little bulky. Yes, it folds up and is short, but if you have that on your back its gonna be uncomfortable.

I also agree on this matter

I wouldnt say it is that unconfortable, even though the bottom rail is annoying to put your hand on (when it is metal) but I think it is very good with a RIS

The G36 isn't that compact because it isn't designed as a secondary weapon. Smaller SMG's and pistols are really what I would consider a backup weapon for a sniper anyhow.

As for your situation, a nice KWA Pistol or their MAC-11 would be my choice. It's totally up to you, whatever looks best in your opinion. Later this year I'm trying to purchase a L96, and use my KWA Glock 18c as backup for it. The distance is very good from the pistol itself, I wasn't able to get an exact distance since It's still below freezing here but from what I have used, an excellent choice of sidearm, no doubt.

bioniclebert wrote:

As for your situation, a nice KWA Pistol or their MAC-11 would be my choice. It's totally up to you, whatever looks best in your opinion. Later this year I'm trying to purchase a L96, and use my KWA Glock 18c as backup for it.

Ah, a sniper an a glock. Is there anything better? Seriously though, its too bad that KRISS prototype isnt out yet. That would be perfect for you, albeit outside your price range. I'd still say if you want to keep it under 100 and esp. a NBB then I'd go for a Y&P. Over 100, any KWA GBB or maybe a WE or even the KWC DEagle GBB if you want to go all crazy. If you want an AEG, thats all well and good, but I'd stick to something that you can holster if you play sniper constantly. I have too many bad memories of caught slings, over-encumbrance, and just generally wishing I had a pistol or tighter smg instead of my MP5. You'll thank me later.

Secret Weapon is right, but it is still annoying to bring around a MP5 while also holding a JG BAR 10. I do reccomend the MP5K, but if you can, maybe get a backpack or strap for the other gun you get. It is though more practical to just get a pistol