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 Which gun, Echo 1 G36C V3 or the Vector Arms MP5 A4 RAS?

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Echo 1 G36C V3 (metal spring guide and bushings)
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Vector Arms MP5 A4 RAS
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Vector Arms MP5 A5 RAS
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JG G36C (everyone has said get this for some reason)
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Stealthmasterairsoft14
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PostSubject: Which gun, Echo 1 G36C V3 or the Vector Arms MP5 A4 RAS?   Which gun, Echo 1 G36C V3 or the Vector Arms MP5 A4 RAS? EmptyFri Nov 02, 2007 10:28 pm

Which gun should I get?

Vote on the gun that will last the longest, has the best accuracy, and has the best range.

Or vote for the gun you like best and then post why it's better

Please post which gun has the best accuracy if you know, or just post about a certain gun and why it's good.

Thanks guys

Why does everyone say that the JG's are better? Wouldn't they not last as long due to the more powerful spring?
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PostSubject: Re: Which gun, Echo 1 G36C V3 or the Vector Arms MP5 A4 RAS?   Which gun, Echo 1 G36C V3 or the Vector Arms MP5 A4 RAS? EmptyFri Nov 02, 2007 10:34 pm

I can vouch for the Echo 1 G36C.

One of my closest friends owns a Jg G36C, which is basically the same as an Echo 1 G36c, with a little more FPS.

He uses .20s, and it shoots rather well. About 100-120ft range max really.

Factory shimming was in my opinion terrible, so I reshimed it for him, and added in some metal bushings.(He has the V2 I think)
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PostSubject: Re: Which gun, Echo 1 G36C V3 or the Vector Arms MP5 A4 RAS?   Which gun, Echo 1 G36C V3 or the Vector Arms MP5 A4 RAS? EmptyFri Nov 02, 2007 10:41 pm

Get the G36c. I have used it, and it is very good. The Vector Arms will not last as long because of the stronger spring.
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PostSubject: Re: Which gun, Echo 1 G36C V3 or the Vector Arms MP5 A4 RAS?   Which gun, Echo 1 G36C V3 or the Vector Arms MP5 A4 RAS? EmptyFri Nov 02, 2007 10:44 pm

What if I downgraded the spring?

Also, I baby my guns
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PostSubject: Re: Which gun, Echo 1 G36C V3 or the Vector Arms MP5 A4 RAS?   Which gun, Echo 1 G36C V3 or the Vector Arms MP5 A4 RAS? EmptyFri Nov 02, 2007 10:47 pm

Well, if you downgraded the spring, it would be a great choice. Maybe better than the G36 cause of the metal body.
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PostSubject: Re: Which gun, Echo 1 G36C V3 or the Vector Arms MP5 A4 RAS?   Which gun, Echo 1 G36C V3 or the Vector Arms MP5 A4 RAS? EmptyFri Nov 02, 2007 10:53 pm

do you know what gun is more accurate?
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PostSubject: Re: Which gun, Echo 1 G36C V3 or the Vector Arms MP5 A4 RAS?   Which gun, Echo 1 G36C V3 or the Vector Arms MP5 A4 RAS? EmptyFri Nov 02, 2007 10:59 pm

Airsoftguy wrote:
The Vector Arms will not last as long because of the stronger spring.


Where are you getting that from?

A gun that shoots 340FPS has almost the same chance of a gearbox cracking with a gun that shoots 380FPS.


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PostSubject: Re: Which gun, Echo 1 G36C V3 or the Vector Arms MP5 A4 RAS?   Which gun, Echo 1 G36C V3 or the Vector Arms MP5 A4 RAS? EmptyFri Nov 02, 2007 11:01 pm

Um.........OvermedicateD, the only thing different in the gearboxes of the G36C and the VA MP5, is that the MP5 has a sector gear clip.

They both have metal spring guides and metal bushings Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Which gun, Echo 1 G36C V3 or the Vector Arms MP5 A4 RAS?   Which gun, Echo 1 G36C V3 or the Vector Arms MP5 A4 RAS? EmptyFri Nov 02, 2007 11:23 pm

Use the edit button, no double posting.

Anyway, my bad, I forgot about the V3s.

But my point still stands, you would be better off getting the VA E1s, since the higher stock FPS.

Plus you get lame trades on a pot metal body Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Which gun, Echo 1 G36C V3 or the Vector Arms MP5 A4 RAS?   Which gun, Echo 1 G36C V3 or the Vector Arms MP5 A4 RAS? EmptyFri Nov 02, 2007 11:30 pm

Will the VA's last as long as the V3 G36?

And would you happen to know which gun is more accurate?

Thanks
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PostSubject: Re: Which gun, Echo 1 G36C V3 or the Vector Arms MP5 A4 RAS?   Which gun, Echo 1 G36C V3 or the Vector Arms MP5 A4 RAS? EmptyFri Nov 02, 2007 11:35 pm

The VA series tends to shoot around 400Fps, when the gearbox is not fully supported for the M120 spring.
The G36c V3 would last longer than the VA most likely, right now, there are no *perfect* answers.
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PostSubject: Re: Which gun, Echo 1 G36C V3 or the Vector Arms MP5 A4 RAS?   Which gun, Echo 1 G36C V3 or the Vector Arms MP5 A4 RAS? EmptyFri Nov 02, 2007 11:45 pm

^^ The only problem would be the shimming, because it is normally sub-par on ACMs. Get the gun, re-shim, then you would be fine.

Also scrap the battery, get a good 9.6v, and get some good ROF.
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PostSubject: Re: Which gun, Echo 1 G36C V3 or the Vector Arms MP5 A4 RAS?   Which gun, Echo 1 G36C V3 or the Vector Arms MP5 A4 RAS? EmptyFri Nov 02, 2007 11:54 pm

The E1s don't have problems with shimming as far as I know.

I know a friend who can work on the gun for me if it breaks. I don't really know what "shimming" means. Care to explain?

Thanks for the help
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PostSubject: Re: Which gun, Echo 1 G36C V3 or the Vector Arms MP5 A4 RAS?   Which gun, Echo 1 G36C V3 or the Vector Arms MP5 A4 RAS? EmptySat Nov 03, 2007 12:00 am

Shims are little pieces of metal that you use to make sure there is the right distance between the gears.

OmD, the guy at my walk in store told he that he never recommends VA guns cause the gearboxes break to fast.
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PostSubject: Re: Which gun, Echo 1 G36C V3 or the Vector Arms MP5 A4 RAS?   Which gun, Echo 1 G36C V3 or the Vector Arms MP5 A4 RAS? EmptySat Nov 03, 2007 12:25 am

So, you say get the G36C? Is the G36 feel heavy at all? Does it feel comfortable to hold?

Thanks for all the help guys


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PostSubject: Re: Which gun, Echo 1 G36C V3 or the Vector Arms MP5 A4 RAS?   Which gun, Echo 1 G36C V3 or the Vector Arms MP5 A4 RAS? EmptySat Nov 03, 2007 12:30 am

The G36 feels heavy, especially when the stock is folded for CQB

Its all right to hold.

(I have it)
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PostSubject: Re: Which gun, Echo 1 G36C V3 or the Vector Arms MP5 A4 RAS?   Which gun, Echo 1 G36C V3 or the Vector Arms MP5 A4 RAS? EmptySat Nov 03, 2007 12:30 am

My friends JG G36C is very very light...

Since it uses a all plastic body, and has few metal externals.

Of course im used to lugging a 10+ pound M14, so anything less seems light.
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PostSubject: Re: Which gun, Echo 1 G36C V3 or the Vector Arms MP5 A4 RAS?   Which gun, Echo 1 G36C V3 or the Vector Arms MP5 A4 RAS? EmptySat Nov 03, 2007 12:33 am

Yes, I guess that is true.

However MY friends all have really really light Crossman MP5s, so..........
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