CA G36 or Echo

Hey everybody,
I definitely want a G36. So, not a lot of companies make ones except for echo, CA, and KWA. My first concern is: Is the CA better than the echo. Airsoftgi has charts and it ranks the Echo better in every aspect except the body(b/c it's plastic). So, for 100$ more, is it(CA) really worth it?? Also, if the CA is, would i be stupid to spend the extra 50$ to get the KWA. My friend sais that the airsoftgi harts are wrong and that the CA would be better but i don't believe that airsoftgi would lie. If you want to check out this chart go to the website link at the bottom. Thanks people!!!
Scott
http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?cPath=139_24_163&products_id=1974

They wouldnt lie.... on purpose.

Maybe they are just misguided

If you want a really good G36, and have the money, definitely get the KWA

Yes, the KWA is probably the best G36 you can buy for under $500.

Okay here's the deal

I forget where, but I read a comparison on the three G36Cs.

Here are the results

CA-Most accurate out of all three, followed by KWA, and Echo 1

One reason the CA G36C was the most accurate was probably because it is the weakest of the three, therefore .2s were perfect for the gun, but not heavy enough for the other two rifles.

KWA is obviously the most powerful, then E1, and finally CA

I'd go with the KWA, VERY powerful and accurate and overall better than the E1 and CA. If you don't want to spend much, E1 is a great choice.

^^ That makes no sense, FPS doesn't determine accuracy.

Unless your gun shoots under 300FPS, you should always use .25s, or .23s.

says who that you should use over .2bbs for over 300 fps?

though i must agree, the fps thing didnt make complete sense.

Well.... a way you could look at it is that you could use .25s in the KWA, get incredible accuracy, but still shoot faster than the CA.

^^ Well To make it short, since I don't want this topic to get anymore OT.

3 weeks ago I bought a bag of AE .25s from AEX, after I read a topic on AS-R. People there claimed that the range difference between .20s and .25s is so different that it wouldn't handicap you unless you wanted to get the absolute maximum.

To sum it up, im never buying .20s again unless I own a gun shooting less than 300FPS. For only a few bucks more, im getting killer accuracy, and the range lost is <10ft.

All that higher FPS with .2s is giving you is more wind resistance, thats it. The only reason you would need to upgrade your FPS is if you want to use heavier bbs.

Ok so lets get back OT.

Right, so it is between the KWA and the Echo. I am a cheap person, but i do have the money. So, once again the wuestion comes up:is the KWA really worth twice the amount of the G36. ALso, if I got the KWA i wouldn't be able to afford to put anything on it but i would if i got the echo? Any ideas or opinions?

Go with the CA the echo 1 is not reliable
inside the barrel there is another barrel
around that the hop up is attached
and with a low quality gun like the Echo 1 the plastic parts by the hop up will actually tighten up some times and jam the gun
if you keep shooting off the jam you can get 4 or 5 bullets stuck in the barrel

Actually, Echo1s are very reliable. I have one, and I know 3 other people who have them and not ONE has had a jam.

If you want a G36k and are willing to spend that much I would get the CA G36 I prefer the G36k over the G36c but thats just me. Overall its up to you though.

Oh sorry
I had a Echo 1 and mine jammed in about a month
I barley shot any and did a lot of maitnince
Maybe Precision airsoft isnt any good or something
My stock fell off in first week
jammed in about a month
but maybe it was 1 gun or something was wrong
but still I would go with TM but if you want a Echo is a good first gun

Yeah, I think you got defective gun. What BBs do you use?

My $0.02 is go with KWA. All of their pistols are rock solid including their rifles. I would expect nothing low quality of KWA.

I use High Quality .2s i get at AEX
I fixed it by taking it apart and unjamming it
I believe that non-high caps feed better into the gun ( my expierience )
thanks for the advice though
also I like the TM because it has the highest quality internals
(not externals, some cheap plastic on mp5)