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BlackJack Private First Class E-2
Number of posts : 27 Age : 36 Location : California Registration date : 2008-05-16
| Subject: jg g36c or jg ak47 tactical Fri May 16, 2008 1:32 am | |
| internally there just about the same, but I haven't tested either of them so I can't be for certain. I leaning more towards the ak47 tactical because I already own 3 ak47 magazines. but I love the g36c for how compact it can be. Please give me your input EDIT: Im sorry I posted this in the wrong thread, would an admin please move this to the correct thread, and Im truly sorry for this inconvenience | |
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Stealthmasterairsoft14 First Lieutenant
Number of posts : 849 Age : 34 Location : Arizona Registration date : 2007-11-02
| Subject: Re: jg g36c or jg ak47 tactical Fri May 16, 2008 2:17 am | |
| While the AK-74 seems to be more accurate, (I haven't shot it at longer ranges, so I can't really say) it is not as well built externally. IMO, the tactical feels like it has cheap plastic. The rails seem to be made of cheap plastic, but are mounted solidly to the gun. The foregrip it comes with is wobbly and does not feel durable. I'd personally go G36C. It's a great gun that is solid, very easy to disassemble, has good accuracy, and just works really well.
I will warn you though, the G36C is pretty much useless outside of 120 feet. At 120, you will be pretty lucky to hit someone. I'd suggest you buy a G&G Plastic M4 because those are way better than any E1/JG gun. If that is too expensive, you should look into the SIG 552. Booligan says that is a GREAT gun.
Also, if you have an ICS MP5, why do you want an E1 gun/JG? | |
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BlackJack Private First Class E-2
Number of posts : 27 Age : 36 Location : California Registration date : 2008-05-16
| Subject: Re: jg g36c or jg ak47 tactical Fri May 16, 2008 3:04 am | |
| because I want a cheap but reliable backup gun...and thanks for your opinion | |
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RoboFURY Gunnery Sergeant E-7
Number of posts : 294 Age : 33 Location : Sunol CA Registration date : 2007-07-22
| Subject: Re: jg g36c or jg ak47 tactical Fri May 16, 2008 12:36 pm | |
| I actually own a JG AK-47 TAC. I would not suggest getting it at all. It is very flimsy, the but stock broke off while in play. The build is horrid, period! It hits hard but thats about it.
I was honestly crushed when I got mine, I cant even explain how disappointed I was.
I would go with the JG G36. Or, like stealth said, a G&G plastic, or a JG SIG 552. | |
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Stealthmasterairsoft14 First Lieutenant
Number of posts : 849 Age : 34 Location : Arizona Registration date : 2007-11-02
| Subject: Re: jg g36c or jg ak47 tactical Fri May 16, 2008 2:59 pm | |
| The G&G plastica series are only 170, you would just need a battery and charger. I'd look into the 552, I bet it's better than the G36C. | |
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Scott Sergeant E-5
Number of posts : 183 Age : 32 Location : USA Registration date : 2007-11-26
| Subject: Re: jg g36c or jg ak47 tactical Fri May 16, 2008 5:17 pm | |
| I have the AK-47 and I love it. The rail system isn't cheap plastic, it may look like it but it is realy solid and durable. I dont have the G36 so idk about that but everything about the AK has impressed me. The accuracy is great and the range is as well. THe externals are good for a mid range AEG. The internals are also good. I think that both guns have their ups and downs, so just go with whatever appeals to you more. | |
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theprodigy Master Gunnery Sergeant E-9
Number of posts : 464 Age : 33 Location : nc Registration date : 2007-10-28
| Subject: Re: jg g36c or jg ak47 tactical Fri May 16, 2008 5:37 pm | |
| Ok really stealth stop with the G&G plastica stuff. First off blackjack don't get the plastica. It takes a while to get it to work and it doesn't have the same quality internals as the regular G&G's. Stealthmaster has never shot one or owned one. They are ok, only slightly better than an Echo 1 in skirmishes. Also I would reccomend getting the G36c. Although I hate the iron sites on both guns I like the feel of the G36c more. The rof in my expirence on the AK is horrible too. This may just be because the one I saw had a bad battery. Also really there is no "right" answer to this question it depends with what you like and seeing as you have an MP5, you may want a longer gun with more range that can hold more ammo (ak.) But if you like the idea of being able to run everywhere and don't care about the range go for the G36c. | |
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BlackJack Private First Class E-2
Number of posts : 27 Age : 36 Location : California Registration date : 2008-05-16
| Subject: Re: jg g36c or jg ak47 tactical Fri May 16, 2008 5:41 pm | |
| I just looked the g&g plastic and I was impressed since it came stock with a tightbore barrel...........Im sort of looking for a gun with long range and that can hold a significant amount of ammo, the ak47 holding 600 and the g36 holding 470...its tough | |
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theprodigy Master Gunnery Sergeant E-9
Number of posts : 464 Age : 33 Location : nc Registration date : 2007-10-28
| Subject: Re: jg g36c or jg ak47 tactical Fri May 16, 2008 5:44 pm | |
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BlackJack Private First Class E-2
Number of posts : 27 Age : 36 Location : California Registration date : 2008-05-16
| Subject: Re: jg g36c or jg ak47 tactical Fri May 16, 2008 5:50 pm | |
| the g3 is huge, but it has a built in bipod so im sure it would make a great camping weapon/long range shooting | |
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theprodigy Master Gunnery Sergeant E-9
Number of posts : 464 Age : 33 Location : nc Registration date : 2007-10-28
| Subject: Re: jg g36c or jg ak47 tactical Fri May 16, 2008 5:51 pm | |
| Well can you describe what you want out of the gun? All we know is that you want a mid end back up weapon. | |
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BlackJack Private First Class E-2
Number of posts : 27 Age : 36 Location : California Registration date : 2008-05-16
| Subject: Re: jg g36c or jg ak47 tactical Fri May 16, 2008 5:55 pm | |
| I want a good amount of range, bigger high cap mag 400+, and has to be under $200 | |
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theprodigy Master Gunnery Sergeant E-9
Number of posts : 464 Age : 33 Location : nc Registration date : 2007-10-28
| Subject: Re: jg g36c or jg ak47 tactical Fri May 16, 2008 5:57 pm | |
| What is your style of play do you run a lot? Does it have to be an AEG? How big are you? Can you carry an M14? | |
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BlackJack Private First Class E-2
Number of posts : 27 Age : 36 Location : California Registration date : 2008-05-16
| Subject: Re: jg g36c or jg ak47 tactical Fri May 16, 2008 6:25 pm | |
| I do a fair amount of running, although I could camp if I had to, and im 6'1 250 pounds, so I can pretty much carry any gun | |
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Stealthmasterairsoft14 First Lieutenant
Number of posts : 849 Age : 34 Location : Arizona Registration date : 2007-11-02
| Subject: Re: jg g36c or jg ak47 tactical Fri May 16, 2008 6:38 pm | |
| Prodigy you can't act like you know what you are talking about either. How come no one else I know of has had problems with their plastica M4? Did it ever occur to you that you got a lemon? Other than the motor, (which is fine if you keep the gun stock) the G&G plasticas have the same internals as the full metal ones. Everyone else but you has raved about the plastica. They say the accuracy is much better than E1 guns. The ROF is about 1000 RPM with a 9.6v
I'm not saying I'm right, but you are the only I've heard complaints from regarding the plastica. You claim you did not get a lemon and that all the guns are like that, but HOW do you KNOW that they are like that? I don't know that they aren't, but I do know that unless you can show me some evidence, I'm going to believe you got a lemon.
Personally, I wouldn't go with either of those E1/JGs. The G36C's accuracy is very good outside of 110-120 feet. The AK isn't built very solidly. I'd look into the JG G3.
I really suggest you do some research on the plastica to see for yourself. I have not heard anything bad about them. You will need a 9.6 to run the gun for some reason. It won't shoot with an 8.4 | |
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sgt. Hartwig Lt. Colonel
Number of posts : 553 Age : 33 Location : Manhattan Beach, CA Registration date : 2007-03-17
| Subject: Re: jg g36c or jg ak47 tactical Fri May 16, 2008 6:46 pm | |
| Lol, guys im pretty sure he already has a smart charger, or at least knows how to charge his battery properly. | |
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Booligan First Lieutenant
Number of posts : 867 Age : 39 Location : USA Registration date : 2007-09-28
| Subject: Re: jg g36c or jg ak47 tactical Fri May 16, 2008 7:27 pm | |
| Stealth, being that Prodigy actually has a Plastica, I think you should listen to him. He's not recommending it because, in his experience, it was crap. Now, how much personal experience do YOU have with it? None, so you kinda have no place recommending it. Just because you have heard some positive things, doesn't mean that overall, it's a great gun. Lots of people pass along "somthing that I heard" and it ends up being bad info a lot of the time. I find it amusing that "everyone" on this forum loves the gun, but has no experience with it, and when the one person that actually has one gives negative feedback about it, he gets yelled at. Priceless, lol...
Kinda like a bunch of vegetarians telling someone how to cook a steak...
Too many people on this forum give advice about guns that they have never even laid their hands on, and may be passing along bad info.
How about a new rule: IF YOU HAVE NO EXPERIENCE WITH THE TOPIC AT HAND, DO NOT GIVE ADVICE ABOUT IT. | |
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Scott Sergeant E-5
Number of posts : 183 Age : 32 Location : USA Registration date : 2007-11-26
| Subject: Re: jg g36c or jg ak47 tactical Fri May 16, 2008 7:40 pm | |
| LOL I love you guys!!!! Here is my final input: GO WITH WHATEVER LOOKS GOOD TO YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!! All of the guns listed being the echo 1 AK47 and G36, and the G&G PLastica are all good guns. Minding the new rule, all I can talk about is the AK. It is a beautiful gun. Contrary to what Stealth thinks, the gun is well built (at least mine is). It is made out of really strong plastic and maybe metal(it looks like metal but may not be) It has a good rate of fire and the mags are great becasue they hold 600. Agreeing with stealth, I have heard great thing about the plastica BUT, those may be wrong. I am going to get the Plastica in a little bit so I will definitely let you know how it is. I think it really comes down to this: which gun do you like the most. Considering you already have AK mags, I would say go with the AK because i love the one I own. It performs well against any other gun. Last skirmish i got 7 kills with it and only 1 "death". I hope this helps and doesn't piss anyone off. Good Luck! Scott
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Stealthmasterairsoft14 First Lieutenant
Number of posts : 849 Age : 34 Location : Arizona Registration date : 2007-11-02
| Subject: Re: jg g36c or jg ak47 tactical Fri May 16, 2008 7:40 pm | |
| You are absolutely correct Booligan. I do have experience with the JG AK-47 tactical and I do not recommend that gun. As I said, I do not have experience with the gun, but I have read up quite a bit on it. I'm sorry prodigy. It's just, I don't understand why you don't think you got a lemon? Could you PM why you don't think you got a lemon. BOT The AK-47 performs great from what I've seen, hits hard and is accurate, but it isn't built very well externally. It feels pretty sturdy, but not as sturdy as the G36. The metal is pretty cheap feeling imo, worse than what is on the VA MP5. If this makes any sense, the parts are attached sturdily, they just do not feel very high quality to me. Robofury ordered from Evike.......(he also got a lemon) I'd go AK over G36 as far as performance goes. But G36 is built better externally. Also, what about the new CYMA AKs? This one shoots 400 fps. have you heard anything about it booligan? http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?cPath=139_24_206&products_id=3309It apparently shoots 400 fps, which means that it most likely has an M120 spring. I wonder if the gearbox can handle that for very long......... CYMAs seem to usually have great power, but bad ROF. | |
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theprodigy Master Gunnery Sergeant E-9
Number of posts : 464 Age : 33 Location : nc Registration date : 2007-10-28
| Subject: Re: jg g36c or jg ak47 tactical Fri May 16, 2008 8:04 pm | |
| Well about the plastica... if you are 6'1'' I would highly reccomend not getting this gun. It is about 5lbs, maybe 6lbs but it feels extremely light. It is ok and I don't think I got a Lemon because my local airsmith confirmed I didn't. So I wouldn't reccomend the gun but if you have 200 for a back up and you like the iron sites on your MP5 I would go for the Echo 1 G3. And for as far as hearing SOOO many good things about the gun, before airsoftgi took the gun off there website there were about eight one star reviews. So maybe its not just me? | |
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AirsoftMan Sergeant E-5
Number of posts : 156 Age : 62 Location : Maine Registration date : 2007-12-31
| Subject: Re: jg g36c or jg ak47 tactical Fri May 16, 2008 8:09 pm | |
| Just to defend Stealth a little...
I DO have this gun and I think prodigy got a lemon. This gun destroys my friends brand new Echo 1 614 in skirmishes. I do highly recommend it, just with a 9.6v battery.
AND HEIGHT AND WEIGHT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE GUN IF YOU ARE BIG!!!
If you are small, I wouldnt recommend getting an M16, etc. But if you are tall, nothing really matters as long as the gun us a 1/1' replica. These guns were designed for fully grown adults here.... | |
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Scott Sergeant E-5
Number of posts : 183 Age : 32 Location : USA Registration date : 2007-11-26
| Subject: Re: jg g36c or jg ak47 tactical Fri May 16, 2008 8:50 pm | |
| Prodigy, what gun are you talking about when you say that it was removed from ASGI and before it was removed had 8 one star reviews?? If it is the plastica then you are wrong, I just looked and it has only a five star review. | |
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theprodigy Master Gunnery Sergeant E-9
Number of posts : 464 Age : 33 Location : nc Registration date : 2007-10-28
| Subject: Re: jg g36c or jg ak47 tactical Fri May 16, 2008 8:52 pm | |
| That was AFTER it was removed, I was reffering to the Xmas-Special. | |
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Scott Sergeant E-5
Number of posts : 183 Age : 32 Location : USA Registration date : 2007-11-26
| Subject: Re: jg g36c or jg ak47 tactical Fri May 16, 2008 8:54 pm | |
| Im not getting it. When was it removed?? And wasn;t the x-mas special the M4 commando?? And if it was removed, when did they put it back on?? I dont think it is a bad gun becasue it has one great review on ASGI and they are out of stock showing that people want them. | |
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theprodigy Master Gunnery Sergeant E-9
Number of posts : 464 Age : 33 Location : nc Registration date : 2007-10-28
| Subject: Re: jg g36c or jg ak47 tactical Fri May 16, 2008 8:54 pm | |
| - Scott wrote:
- Im not getting it. When was it removed?? And wasn;t the x-mas special the M4 commando?? And if it was removed, when did they put it back on?? I dont think it is a bad gun becasue it has one great review on ASGI and they are out of stock showing that people want them.
On asgi they now sell just the gun no package. The one that had bad reviews was the package that clear it up? - AirsoftMan wrote:
If you are small, I wouldnt recommend getting an M16, etc. But if you are tall, nothing really matters as long as the gun us a 1/1' replica. These guns were designed for fully grown adults here.... Not all guns are one in one replica's, hence the name "plastica" therefore more targeted to smaller consumers | |
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